Typical. Wanting it both ways.
Thatâs not both ways at all.
Regardless of your decision re: federal forces in your state, if a potential crime was committed in your state, itâs your business.
Fair.
Thank you.
WW
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Law is clear on that. Any prosecution of a federal agent for a crime alleged to have occurred while performing his duties will be transferred to a federal court, even if the state initiates it.
Besides, the Governor and Mayor already declared the agent guilty even while the lie was going around that she was not an,activist but just a mother innocently taking her kid to,school.
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wasnt a threat.
shot three times because Jonathan Ross, the ICE agent was angry.
Allan
No. He wasnât angry until after he was hit by her car.
And again ⊠her intentions donât matter, only her actions and Rossâs perception of them, and the letter of the law matter.
And none of this matters in this thread.
Apparently the officer suffered internal injuries from the impact of the car striking him. So striking a law enforcement officer with a vehicle, while attempting to flee a scene to avoid arrest, doesnât constitute a threat?
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He suffered internal bleeding to the torso. There are levels to that. Internal bleeding to the torso can be a bruise. It can also be organ damage resulting in bleeding. Given that itâs being described as internal bleeding to the torso we should probably side closer to it being a bruise. She hit him. Probably didnât intend to. His First shot may be. Second and third nah
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Those 3 shotts probably took less than 2 seconds to fire at pointblank range. I routinely fire 8 aimed shots in under 5 seconds.
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I am sure and we have seen speed shooting discussed but not at people. I have a feeling you have more control than that. Should he have?
Law enforcement is trained to fire multiple rapid shots in close quarters use of deadly force situations. It was called the gun fight, but it still applies in this situation. The training makes firing until the threat is neutralized a drilled reaction, rather than a conscious firing of individual shots, to the recognized threat situation. I still practice it each time I go to the range, with my 1911 and my 9mm.
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I get that and i figured that that is the underlying argument that once the car is in motion itâs a threat and second guessing those decisions is tough but shooting through the side window looks bad. May be it is just optics and optics arenât as important as the fact that he followed his training.
Or maybe she wasnât a threat to begin with and everybody involved including her and her partner (though not criminally and probably not even civilly) was in the wrong at how it was handled. Itâs a tough situation. I donât like him shooting through a side window after the car passes him. Regardless of how fast it was. It just doesnât look good.
The first round went through the windshield just to the right of the left frame strut, His recognition of the now moving vehicle was less than a second before his training took over. The remaining shots entered the driverâs side window. I suspect that the angle of entry wounds will show that the second shot enters the window at an acute angle indicating the shot was fired while he was still even with the hood, not perpendicular to the window. Third shot probably also has a front to back angle in relation to the window. He stopped firing once the driverâs compartment and window passed him, causing him to lose a clear shot at the driver.
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Thank God he didnât have a clear shot at the driver. This might have ended badly.
He had a clear shot when he fired the three shots in reaction to the threat. He stopped firing when he no longer had a clear shot. Do you have any other snarky/vapid observations to add?
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He had a clear shot when he fired the three shots in reaction to the threat. He stopped firing when he no longer had a clear shot. Do you have any other snarky/vapid observations to add?
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Iâm working on it.
Of that I am quite sure.
As has been explained before, adrenalin and semi-auto pistols often result in multiple shots being fired. It is not uncommon for people (cops or not) to empty the magazine before they stop shooting. Take fear and emotion out of the scenario and you are probably right, but thatâs not real life. You are in no position to judge him or anyone else who is firing in defense of their life as to how many rounds are justified.
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Yep. A triple-tap is standard.
More trolling. Go figure.
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