4495

You were talking about murder which is a criminal charge. Not going to happen.

Now you have moved to a wrongful death civil action. Which will probably happen. However I don’t know if D.C. has jury civil trials or bench trials. Maybe a mix depending on what is requested and approved by the Judge? Don’t know for sure.

#1 The families lawyer in the spring was adamant about filing a civil case. To my knowledge here we are 9 months after the shooting and no case filed yet.

#2 Then we have pre-trial motions requesting a dismissal for it being a frivolous lawsuit, which it will be seeing has how the shooting was justified.

#3 Then there are pre-trial motions to dismissed based on qualified immunity and since Lt. Byrd’s action were reasonable under the reasonable person theory for self defense and the protection of others and there was no personal negligence.

#4 Then you might get to a jury trial (if they have juries in D.C. for civil cases) and given the fact that the shooting was reviewed by both the DOJ and Capitol Police in terms or reasonableness and adherence to protocols, a “conviction” is unlikely.

#5 More likely is that the family will make a buck through pre-trial settlement and will be paid to go away (which is probably their true desire) and the will be no admission of “guilt” as part of the settlement.

But we’ll be watching.

WW

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4496

It was not murder. We will have to agree to disagree on that point.

Allan

4497

He didn’t shoot “the mob”.

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4498

Only needed to shoot one of the mob. The head.

Cut off the head and the rest die.

Allan

4499

Correct.

He shot the first person in the mob to breach the law enforcement barricade. Smart move, it gave the others pause and time for reinforcements to arrive.

WW

4500

No, he shot the unarmed girl.

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4501

No, he shot the first rioter that breached the law enforcement barricade that was the last line of defense prior to the mob having access to the House Chamber. She presented a clear and present danger and he acted appropriately.

The fact that she was a woman is irrelevant.

WW

4502

He shot the smallest, weakest, most unarmed member of the mob.

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4503

That’s because the cowards behind her let a woman go first.

Real men would have held her back and gone through themselves.

But I guess they were just cosplaying.

WW

4504

Regardless of your reasoning, that’s who he shot.

I’d have at least a little respect for him if he had shot into the mob.

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4505

Then you just justified every cop shooting.

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4506

Did you see the window? She was only one small enough to crawled through it.

4507

I was thinking Tamir Rice.

4508

Yep…and some here said it was bad shooting. :wink:

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4509

Hell I say it, it was.

4510

Same here. It’s called consistency. :wink:

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4511

Where was she headed?

4512

Irrelevant. She was unarmed.

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4513

Doesn’t matter…she was unarmed.

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4514

Nobody knew whether she was armed or not as she headed for theVP, VP elect, Speaker, President pro tem, and all of Congress.