Mix the white supremacists with antifa and peaceful protesters can end up like Heather Heyer.
Cars start out on the periphery. Riots spread. Fights flow.
Go there is you want. That’s your prerogative. I’ll avoid the riots. That’s my prerogative.
There are a million ways to protest nazis coming to your own home town. You could hang a banner from a window along the route. You could put signs up. Hell, buy a bluetooth speaker and hide behind a bush if you’re afraid for your well being.
You honestly don’t have to be brave.
And many of the rest of us will peacefully protest nazis coming to our towns. I respect your inaction when they come to your home town.
And Antifa.
I say towns should break out the riot gear and crush the riots.
Well, if both groups have a right to march then what are you going to do?
They’re going to come and it’s up to the citizens to show them they’re not welcome. You may not be one of those citizens but a whole lot of the rest of us are.
Now, once they start breaking laws the police can certainly step in.
When it turns to rioting, it’s no longer marching. Or protest. Or free speech.
Antifa and supremacists partying together turns into riots. And where one shows up, the other materializes.
Mayors tell the police to stand back. They should actually have the riot squads at the ready to mow it down, each and every time.
Read the thread if you want to comment. Your faux outrage is … faux outrage trying to mask an indefensible position.
Three more are going to jail.
Benjamin Daley, Michael Miselis, and Thomas Gillen, members of the white-supremacist organization formerly known as the Rise Above Movement (RAM), were sentenced today in U.S. District Court in Charlottesville for violence they committed as part of their conspiracy to riot, including at the August 2017 Unite the Riot Rally in Charlottesville, and other alleged political rallies in California. The announcement was made by United States Attorney Thomas T. Cullen, Special Agent in Charge David W. Archey of the FBI’s Richmond Division, and Colonel Gary T. Settle of the Virginia State Police.
They were not interested in peaceful protest or lawful First Amendment expression; instead, they intended to provoke and engage in street battles with those that they perceived as their enemies. I am grateful for the diligence and hard work of the FBI and Virginia State Police in bringing these violent white supremacists to justice
Good riddance.
I’m fine with that. Same with Zarate.
Good.
There are people on this very forum who have said that if there hadn’t been counter protests then this wouldn’t have happened.
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It wouldn’t have.
But that’s neither defending the guy nor diminishing what he did. (Nor blaming the woman for getting killed.)
You know, all those people in law Vegas wouldn’t have been shot if they just hadn’t gone to that concert.
See how dumb that is to even bother saying?
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Sure, it’s dumb. (And note, I’m not defending those who said it.)
I’m just pointing out the factual truth. I wasn’t in Vegas that day. I’m still here. (Eerily, I was there – at a conference, in Mandalay Bay – exactly one week later, and it certainly made me contemplate the fragility of the human condition and the randomness of things.)
And still, I’ll repeat: that’s neither defending the killer nor diminishing what he did. (Nor blaming the victim(s) for getting killed.)
