You think ACA subsidies are greater than the tax liability for someone making 90k? I don’t.
It’s also a terrible policy.
Well I suppose if that was the only government service they consumed, you might have a point. Not a relevant one but…
Moving the goal posts. Cool.
I don’t have the right to judge the situation of those in need. I guess you do.
zantax: SottoVoce: zantax: SottoVoce: Call_me_Ishmael: SottoVoce: Call_me_Ishmael: SottoVoce: zantax: tnt:Lol. Tax cuts for corps, budget cuts for american citizens.
Budget cuts for Americans sounds so much worse than stealing money I earned to give it to those who didn’t earn it doesn’t it?
So, as long as it’s other Americans having their budget cut, you’re OK with it? I’m sure the rich all earn every penny and those lazy poor don’t deserve a dime. Those Republicans and their strong Christian values…
Christian values have nothing to do with government spending and making OTHERS help the poor. Charity is a personal trait according to Abrahamic religions… not a government trait.
Helping others only counts when you’re not “forced” to do it. Got it.
Yes… as far as the religious values you mentioned, that is exactly right. The gubment won’t be standing in for you on judgement day… nor will the millions that you try to force to do what Jesus told YOU to do.
And your response when Jesus asks why you wanted to pay less taxes at the expense of the poor?
To better direct my charitable dollar to effectively help the truly destitute regardless of where they were born. But I can’t wait to see your answer when he asks you why you supported charity for people making 90k a year instead of using the money to save hundreds in a third world nation get access to clean drinking water.
Simple. I can do both. I can realize my greed and run from it. I can pay taxes here and give to charities abroad. Some of my tax dollars go to helping those abroad anyway. I’m not perfect but I’m content in doing what I can to help others, be it via taxes or other means. As long as I’m helping others, the vehicle doesn’t concern me.
And apparently figuring out that money you give to people via taxes who already have access to food, shelter and clean drinking water instead of to the truly who don’t, costs lives is beyond your level of comprehension.
I don’t have the right to judge the situation of those in need. I guess you do.
Lol. Well I suppose it is true that some people need the government to do their thinking for them.
It’s so much more than that. Charity suffers from regionality and limited scope. It’s what prevents them from filling the same role as government.
SottoVoce: zantax: SottoVoce: zantax: SottoVoce: Call_me_Ishmael: SottoVoce: Call_me_Ishmael: SottoVoce: zantax: tnt:Lol. Tax cuts for corps, budget cuts for american citizens.
Budget cuts for Americans sounds so much worse than stealing money I earned to give it to those who didn’t earn it doesn’t it?
So, as long as it’s other Americans having their budget cut, you’re OK with it? I’m sure the rich all earn every penny and those lazy poor don’t deserve a dime. Those Republicans and their strong Christian values…
Christian values have nothing to do with government spending and making OTHERS help the poor. Charity is a personal trait according to Abrahamic religions… not a government trait.
Helping others only counts when you’re not “forced” to do it. Got it.
Yes… as far as the religious values you mentioned, that is exactly right. The gubment won’t be standing in for you on judgement day… nor will the millions that you try to force to do what Jesus told YOU to do.
And your response when Jesus asks why you wanted to pay less taxes at the expense of the poor?
To better direct my charitable dollar to effectively help the truly destitute regardless of where they were born. But I can’t wait to see your answer when he asks you why you supported charity for people making 90k a year instead of using the money to save hundreds in a third world nation get access to clean drinking water.
Simple. I can do both. I can realize my greed and run from it. I can pay taxes here and give to charities abroad. Some of my tax dollars go to helping those abroad anyway. I’m not perfect but I’m content in doing what I can to help others, be it via taxes or other means. As long as I’m helping others, the vehicle doesn’t concern me.
And apparently figuring out that money you give to people via taxes who already have access to food, shelter and clean drinking water instead of to the truly who don’t, costs lives is beyond your level of comprehension.
I don’t have the right to judge the situation of those in need. I guess you do.
Lol. Well I suppose it is true that some people need the government to do their thinking for them.
Lol. Well I suppose it is true thet some people use the government to justify personal greed and disdain for those in need.
It’s so much more than that. Charity suffers from regionality and limited scope. It’s what prevents them from filling the same role as government.
Yeah, I mean if you leave it up to people, the guy who ate himself into type two diabetes and refuses to work, just can’t compete with starving kids in Africa.
zantax: SottoVoce: zantax: SottoVoce: zantax: SottoVoce: Call_me_Ishmael: SottoVoce: Call_me_Ishmael: SottoVoce: zantax: tnt:Lol. Tax cuts for corps, budget cuts for american citizens.
Budget cuts for Americans sounds so much worse than stealing money I earned to give it to those who didn’t earn it doesn’t it?
So, as long as it’s other Americans having their budget cut, you’re OK with it? I’m sure the rich all earn every penny and those lazy poor don’t deserve a dime. Those Republicans and their strong Christian values…
Christian values have nothing to do with government spending and making OTHERS help the poor. Charity is a personal trait according to Abrahamic religions… not a government trait.
Helping others only counts when you’re not “forced” to do it. Got it.
Yes… as far as the religious values you mentioned, that is exactly right. The gubment won’t be standing in for you on judgement day… nor will the millions that you try to force to do what Jesus told YOU to do.
And your response when Jesus asks why you wanted to pay less taxes at the expense of the poor?
To better direct my charitable dollar to effectively help the truly destitute regardless of where they were born. But I can’t wait to see your answer when he asks you why you supported charity for people making 90k a year instead of using the money to save hundreds in a third world nation get access to clean drinking water.
Simple. I can do both. I can realize my greed and run from it. I can pay taxes here and give to charities abroad. Some of my tax dollars go to helping those abroad anyway. I’m not perfect but I’m content in doing what I can to help others, be it via taxes or other means. As long as I’m helping others, the vehicle doesn’t concern me.
And apparently figuring out that money you give to people via taxes who already have access to food, shelter and clean drinking water instead of to the truly who don’t, costs lives is beyond your level of comprehension.
I don’t have the right to judge the situation of those in need. I guess you do.
Lol. Well I suppose it is true that some people need the government to do their thinking for them.
Lol. Well I suppose it is true thet some people use the government to justify personal greed and disdain for those in need.
So, if I prefer to give my charitable dollar, which I remind you is finite, to build a well in Africa to give a hundred people access to clean drinking water as opposed to paying for insulin for a fat American who ate himself into type two diabetes, that is evidence I am greedy and shows disdain for the needy? Yes, I can see why you need the government to do your thinking for you.
Exactly. That guy needs to just die like he deserves.
SottoVoce: zantax: SottoVoce: zantax: SottoVoce: zantax: SottoVoce: Call_me_Ishmael: SottoVoce: Call_me_Ishmael: SottoVoce: zantax: tnt:Lol. Tax cuts for corps, budget cuts for american citizens.
Budget cuts for Americans sounds so much worse than stealing money I earned to give it to those who didn’t earn it doesn’t it?
So, as long as it’s other Americans having their budget cut, you’re OK with it? I’m sure the rich all earn every penny and those lazy poor don’t deserve a dime. Those Republicans and their strong Christian values…
Christian values have nothing to do with government spending and making OTHERS help the poor. Charity is a personal trait according to Abrahamic religions… not a government trait.
Helping others only counts when you’re not “forced” to do it. Got it.
Yes… as far as the religious values you mentioned, that is exactly right. The gubment won’t be standing in for you on judgement day… nor will the millions that you try to force to do what Jesus told YOU to do.
And your response when Jesus asks why you wanted to pay less taxes at the expense of the poor?
To better direct my charitable dollar to effectively help the truly destitute regardless of where they were born. But I can’t wait to see your answer when he asks you why you supported charity for people making 90k a year instead of using the money to save hundreds in a third world nation get access to clean drinking water.
Simple. I can do both. I can realize my greed and run from it. I can pay taxes here and give to charities abroad. Some of my tax dollars go to helping those abroad anyway. I’m not perfect but I’m content in doing what I can to help others, be it via taxes or other means. As long as I’m helping others, the vehicle doesn’t concern me.
And apparently figuring out that money you give to people via taxes who already have access to food, shelter and clean drinking water instead of to the truly who don’t, costs lives is beyond your level of comprehension.
I don’t have the right to judge the situation of those in need. I guess you do.
Lol. Well I suppose it is true that some people need the government to do their thinking for them.
Lol. Well I suppose it is true thet some people use the government to justify personal greed and disdain for those in need.
So, if I prefer to give my charitable dollar, which I remind you is finite, to build a well in Africa to give a hundred people access to clean drinking water as opposed to paying for insulin for a fat American who ate himself into type two diabetes, that is evidence I am greedy and shows disdain for the needy? Yes, I can see why you need the government to do your thinking for you.
As you pointed out… the little kids in foreign countries don’t vote here. The fat guy with diabetes does.Libs want to make sure that fat guy knows who to vote for.
Exactly. That guy needs to just die like he deserves.
Yeah, he does. Because resources are not infinite, he needs to join the line near the back. I am not keeping him alive at the expense of dozens of innocent kids who never had a chance. Sorry.
zantax: SottoVoce: zantax: SottoVoce: zantax: SottoVoce: zantax: SottoVoce: Call_me_Ishmael: SottoVoce: Call_me_Ishmael: SottoVoce: zantax: tnt:Lol. Tax cuts for corps, budget cuts for american citizens.
Budget cuts for Americans sounds so much worse than stealing money I earned to give it to those who didn’t earn it doesn’t it?
So, as long as it’s other Americans having their budget cut, you’re OK with it? I’m sure the rich all earn every penny and those lazy poor don’t deserve a dime. Those Republicans and their strong Christian values…
Christian values have nothing to do with government spending and making OTHERS help the poor. Charity is a personal trait according to Abrahamic religions… not a government trait.
Helping others only counts when you’re not “forced” to do it. Got it.
Yes… as far as the religious values you mentioned, that is exactly right. The gubment won’t be standing in for you on judgement day… nor will the millions that you try to force to do what Jesus told YOU to do.
And your response when Jesus asks why you wanted to pay less taxes at the expense of the poor?
To better direct my charitable dollar to effectively help the truly destitute regardless of where they were born. But I can’t wait to see your answer when he asks you why you supported charity for people making 90k a year instead of using the money to save hundreds in a third world nation get access to clean drinking water.
Simple. I can do both. I can realize my greed and run from it. I can pay taxes here and give to charities abroad. Some of my tax dollars go to helping those abroad anyway. I’m not perfect but I’m content in doing what I can to help others, be it via taxes or other means. As long as I’m helping others, the vehicle doesn’t concern me.
And apparently figuring out that money you give to people via taxes who already have access to food, shelter and clean drinking water instead of to the truly who don’t, costs lives is beyond your level of comprehension.
I don’t have the right to judge the situation of those in need. I guess you do.
Lol. Well I suppose it is true that some people need the government to do their thinking for them.
Lol. Well I suppose it is true thet some people use the government to justify personal greed and disdain for those in need.
So, if I prefer to give my charitable dollar, which I remind you is finite, to build a well in Africa to give a hundred people access to clean drinking water as opposed to paying for insulin for a fat American who ate himself into type two diabetes, that is evidence I am greedy and shows disdain for the needy? Yes, I can see why you need the government to do your thinking for you.
As you pointed out… the little kids in foreign countries don’t vote here. The fat guy with diabetes does.Libs want to make sure that fat guy knows who to vote for.
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They have no moral argument, it’s a sham. It’s about usurping the choice of others and garnering votes. They want to choose where my charitable dollar goes, not for the benefit of the needy, but for their own.
So, if I prefer to give my charitable dollar, which I remind you is finite, to build a well in Africa to give a hundred people access to clean drinking water as opposed to paying for insulin for a fat American who ate himself into type two diabetes, that is evidence I am greedy and shows disdain for the needy? Yes, I can see why you need the government to do your thinking for you.
The greed part is wanting to pay less taxes at the expense of those in need. A person in need because of health issues is still a person in need. A person in need of drinking water is also a person in need. Deciding you’re going to help one person in need and not the other, especially when the justification is so that you can pay less taxes, is greed.
At the expense of dozens of kids who never had the chance or at the expense of a new car for your kids?
How about this compromise, we mandate a certain percent of your income must go to charity, but which charity, is up to you. It can maintain the current level of government spending on the needy. You in libs? Or will you make it more clear what this is really all about?
How about this compromise, we mandate a certain percent of your income must go to charity, but which charity, is up to you. It can maintain the current level of government spending on the needy. You in libs? Or will you make it more clear what this is really all about?
Sounds good to me. Basic welfare and medical programs need to remain funded however.
At the expense of dozens of kids who never had the chance or at the expense of a new car for your kids?
That didn’t come out of my charitable budget. Is that your standard now, we must tax everyone to help the needy to the point nobody can buy a new car?
zantax:How about this compromise, we mandate a certain percent of your income must go to charity, but which charity, is up to you. It can maintain the current level of government spending on the needy. You in libs? Or will you make it more clear what this is really all about?
Sounds good to me. Basic welfare and medical programs need to remain funded however.
So that’s a no, not willing to give up control and vote buying.