I wasn’t there. why, stop you from watching?
Curling is really the only sport I would watch and it is on so seldom besides the Olympics…
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fairly certain under the law and according to the courts you renouncing your citizenship actually has no legal affect, you’re still a citizen.
Nope. If you officially renounce your citizenship there is very few do overs.
“Giving up your U.S. citizenship has consequences. You should never make this decision lightly, as it can only be undone under very limited circumstances. Renouncing your U.S. citizenship means that you:
Give up your rights and responsibilities as a U.S. citizen.
Must become a citizen of another nation, or risk becoming “stateless.”
May need a visa to visit the United States.”
Allan
and do you think this person did the legal requirements to renounce or are they just standing on a soapbox?
Pretty sure she did the legal route, because China doesn’t have dual citizenship and would have required it before granting her Chinese citizenship
and do you know what china requires as proof of denunciation other than a checkbox swearing to it on their own citizenship forms? i don’t. i do know that to renounce you must already have a passport for another country. how would she get that if they required proof?
Well I can find anything specific on it, I looked. But the current articles all say she renounced it.
yeah, i know. i recall a few years back some people up on a soapbox declaring they “renounce their us citizenship” as if saying it was enough. some sort of case also as i recall in court, where the courts basically said if you were born here its irrelevant. maybe faulty memory, but thats my recollection
From Title 8, United States Code:
§1481. Loss of nationality by native-born or naturalized citizen; voluntary action; burden of proof; presumptions
(a) A person who is a national of the United States whether by birth or naturalization, shall lose his nationality by voluntarily performing any of the following acts with the intention of relinquishing United States nationality-
(1) obtaining naturalization in a foreign state upon his own application or upon an application filed by a duly authorized agent, after having attained the age of eighteen years; or
(2) taking an oath or making an affirmation or other formal declaration of allegiance to a foreign state or a political subdivision thereof, after having attained the age of eighteen years; or
(3) entering, or serving in, the armed forces of a foreign state if (A) such armed forces are engaged in hostilities against the United States, or (B) such persons serve as a commissioned or non-commissioned officer; or
(4)(A) accepting, serving in, or performing the duties of any office, post, or employment under the government of a foreign state or a political subdivision thereof, after attaining the age of eighteen years if he has or acquires the nationality of such foreign state; or (B) accepting, serving in, or performing the duties of any office, post, or employment under the government of a foreign state or a political subdivision thereof, after attaining the age of eighteen years for which office, post, or employment an oath, affirmation, or declaration of allegiance is required; or
(5) making a formal renunciation of nationality before a diplomatic or consular officer of the United States in a foreign state, in such form as may be prescribed by the Secretary of State; or
(6) making in the United States a formal written renunciation of nationality in such form as may be prescribed by, and before such officer as may be designated by, the Attorney General, whenever the United States shall be in a state of war and the Attorney General shall approve such renunciation as not contrary to the interests of national defense; or
(7) committing any act of treason against, or attempting by force to overthrow, or bearing arms against, the United States, violating or conspiring to violate any of the provisions of section 2383 of title 18, or willfully performing any act in violation of section 2385 of title 18, or violating section 2384 of title 18 by engaging in a conspiracy to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, if and when he is convicted thereof by a court martial or by a court of competent jurisdiction.
(b) Whenever the loss of United States nationality is put in issue in any action or proceeding commenced on or after September 26, 1961 under, or by virtue of, the provisions of this chapter or any other Act, the burden shall be upon the person or party claiming that such loss occurred, to establish such claim by a preponderance of the evidence. Any person who commits or performs, or who has committed or performed, any act of expatriation under the provisions of this chapter or any other Act shall be presumed to have done so voluntarily, but such presumption may be rebutted upon a showing, by a preponderance of the evidence, that the act or acts committed or performed were not done voluntarily.
At least you will be vaccinated
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