What will happen next with the black vote?

[Jezcoe]

@WuWei

@Jezcoe

@WuWei

@Jezcoe

@WuWei

@Jezcoe

@WuWei

@Jezcoe

Stop making assumptions of what they “should” be doing and listen to what they want and appeal to the parts that line up with the GOP philosophy (whatever that even is anymore).

Interest convergence is racist.

And here I was trying to have a serious discussion about what the GOP should do to pull voters from Democrats.

Oh well.

As am I. Ask BLM.

BLM isn’t the GOP.

This is about what the GOP should do.

Can we stay on topic?

Interest convergence as espoused by Derrick Bell is part of the core teachings of BLM and the pols who support them.

We are speaking of the GOP not BLM.

The OP is predicting a shift of African Americans away from Democrats.

I am trying to discuss that.

Please let us remain on topic.

The leadership of the black community will have to accept the overtures as presented by the GOP. Black politicians protecting their own power will call it what it is. It has to be part and parcel of how the GOP presents whatever it would present.

Nobody is going to believe the GOP did anything positive for black people out of altruism.

The response is already in place and ready.

Black pols would likely vote against it precisely for that reason.

Not at all.

The GOP needs to do the hard work to sell their ideas to as many voters as possible.

This is 2020… make an appeal directly to the voter and deliver on that.

If the voter isn’t buying what you are selling then figure out what you can sell them and punch that up.

You don’t need to go to “leaders” for that. The fact that there is a need to go to “leaders” because they are black is part of the problem.

Think of how bonkers I would sound if I were to say that the DNC needs to go to the leaders of the white community.

Are you seeing the problem?

[altair1013]

@Jezcoe

We are speaking of the GOP not BLM.

The OP is predicting a shift of African Americans away from Democrats.

I am trying to discuss that.

It may cause a little drift away. But I think it’s more likely to cause apathy as inner city people look at the way city leadership has let them down. Standing down and watching their neighborhoods get ravaged. They might just give up and stay home. Then again, I could be totally wrong.

[Jezcoe]

@altair1013

@Jezcoe

We are speaking of the GOP not BLM.

The OP is predicting a shift of African Americans away from Democrats.

I am trying to discuss that.

It may cause a little drift away. But I think it’s more likely to cause apathy as inner city people look at the way city leadership has let them down. Standing down and watching their neighborhoods get ravaged. They might just give up and stay home. Then again, I could be totally wrong.

As I said before… stop assuming that all Black people live in the inner city and that is the vote that the GOP should go after.

There are a ton of rural, religious black voters that the GOP could make appeals to.

They just have to do the hard work to do it.

Maybe stop assuming that the inner city are hell holes.

[WuWei]

A block of voters is not going to do anything without the buy in of the people they consider leaders.

Pols, Academics, etc.

GOP baubles are not going to overcome the narrative. All the dems have to do is remind them, then promise something different and better.

We can disagree.

[WuWei]

@Jezcoe

There are a ton of rural, religious black voters that the GOP could make appeals to.

They just have to do the hard work to do it.

Agreed, there are.

And what can the GOP offer them that hasn’t already been offered?

[altair1013]

@Jezcoe

Which policies specific to the GOP do you think would appeal to more African American voters?

I will give the President kudos for criminal sentencing reform.

Criminal justice reform was good. And the record low black unemployment was awesome. But it’s really tough sledding for the GOP. They are constantly being ridiculed and fighting the racism accusation. Their input is usually dismissed. We need to understand that most Americans of all races desperately want racial harmony. Nearly everyone you know does, and nearly everyone I know does. We need to stop weaponizing race. I would start there.

[Jezcoe]

@WuWei

A block of voters is not going to do anything without the buy in of the people they consider leaders.

Pols, Academics, etc.

GOP baubles are not going to overcome the narrative. All the dems have to do is remind them, then promise something different and better.

We can disagree.

That isn’t that true any more.

Once again. Think of how bonkers it would be to say one must appeal to white leaders.

Go for the individuals.

[WuWei]

@altair1013

Criminal justice reform was good. And the record low black unemployment was awesome.

It wasn’t enough and that was a continuation of Obama’s economy that is gone now because Republicans blew the corona response. The GOP is led by a racist.

See how easy it is to erase?

[Jezcoe]

@WuWei

@Jezcoe

There are a ton of rural, religious black voters that the GOP could make appeals to.

They just have to do the hard work to do it.

Agreed, there are.

And what can the GOP offer them that hasn’t already been offered?

To be considered as equal.

Look at the conversations that are had around African American voters.

Words like plantation, leaders and inner city are thrown around.

Sell them the product of GOP political philosophy and how it could work for them.

Don’t just say that they are being fooled by the Dems. Give an actual alternative that they want.

A different path to the same outcome.

[Jezcoe]

@altair1013

@Jezcoe

Which policies specific to the GOP do you think would appeal to more African American voters?

I will give the President kudos for criminal sentencing reform.

Criminal justice reform was good. And the record low black unemployment was awesome. But it’s really tough sledding for the GOP. They are constantly being ridiculed and fighting the racism accusation. Their input is usually dismissed. We need to understand that most Americans of all races desperately want racial harmony. Nearly everyone you know does, and nearly everyone I know does. We need to stop weaponizing race. I would start there.

The GOP needs to stop being constant victims about why they can’t get the black vote.

Work for it.

That is what has to happen.

[WuWei]

@Jezcoe

@WuWei

A block of voters is not going to do anything without the buy in of the people they consider leaders.

Pols, Academics, etc.

GOP baubles are not going to overcome the narrative. All the dems have to do is remind them, then promise something different and better.

We can disagree.

That isn’t that true any more.

Once again. Think of how bonkers it would be to say one must appeal to white leaders.

Go for the individuals.

What isn’t true any more.

If you want the white redneck vote you do. How are you going to overcome decades of mistrust through propaganda.

When I say BLM and pols, I’m talking about leaders and supporters, not those screaming teenage white girls. BLM was probably the wrong name.

What is the GOP going to do to get the rural religious black vote? Who is going to tell them, yeah, vote for those guys, that’s a good program for us?

[WuWei]

@Jezcoe

@altair1013

@Jezcoe

Which policies specific to the GOP do you think would appeal to more African American voters?

I will give the President kudos for criminal sentencing reform.

Criminal justice reform was good. And the record low black unemployment was awesome. But it’s really tough sledding for the GOP. They are constantly being ridiculed and fighting the racism accusation. Their input is usually dismissed. We need to understand that most Americans of all races desperately want racial harmony. Nearly everyone you know does, and nearly everyone I know does. We need to stop weaponizing race. I would start there.

The GOP needs to stop being constant victims about why they can’t get the black vote.

Work for it.

That is what has to happen.

Agreed. What’s job one?

[Jezcoe]

@WuWei

@Jezcoe

@WuWei

A block of voters is not going to do anything without the buy in of the people they consider leaders.

Pols, Academics, etc.

GOP baubles are not going to overcome the narrative. All the dems have to do is remind them, then promise something different and better.

We can disagree.

That isn’t that true any more.

Once again. Think of how bonkers it would be to say one must appeal to white leaders.

Go for the individuals.

What isn’t true any more.

If you want the white redneck vote you do. How are you going to overcome decades of mistrust through propaganda.

When I say BLM and pols, I’m talking about leaders and supporters, not those screaming teenage white girls. BLM was probably the wrong name.

What is the GOP going to do to get the rural religious black vote? Who is going to tell them, yeah, vote for those guys, that’s a good program for us?

Okay let us talk about the white redneck vote.

Let us make appeals to the white redneck leaders.

Who are they. We should talk to the leaders of that bloc instead of the individuals.

See how bonkers that sounds?

Rural religious black voters are pretty conservative. Those are voters that the GOP could get.

They don’t though.

In 2020 there is the ability to talk to them directly. It would take effort… but if the GOP actually made appeals to the values that those voters have, then they could get them.

[Jezcoe]

@WuWei

@Jezcoe

@altair1013

@Jezcoe

Which policies specific to the GOP do you think would appeal to more African American voters?

I will give the President kudos for criminal sentencing reform.

Criminal justice reform was good. And the record low black unemployment was awesome. But it’s really tough sledding for the GOP. They are constantly being ridiculed and fighting the racism accusation. Their input is usually dismissed. We need to understand that most Americans of all races desperately want racial harmony. Nearly everyone you know does, and nearly everyone I know does. We need to stop weaponizing race. I would start there.

The GOP needs to stop being constant victims about why they can’t get the black vote.

Work for it.

That is what has to happen.

Agreed. What’s job one?

Not for me to figure out.

[altair1013]

@WuWei

It wasn’t enough and that was a continuation of Obama’s economy that is gone now because Republicans blew the corona response. The GOP is led by a racist.

See how easy it is to erase?

Yep. Race is their best weapon. And they are not shy about using it.

[WuWei]

@Jezcoe

To be considered as equal.

Look at the conversations that are had around African American voters.

Words like plantation, leaders and inner city are thrown around.

Sell them the product of GOP political philosophy and how it could work for them.

Don’t just say that they are being fooled by the Dems. Give an actual alternative that they want.

A different path to the same outcome.

What platform plank do I as a GOP candidate offer rural religious black voters to show I consider them equal?

They are going to vote practically en masse for the candidate who has already promised to raise taxes. What do I offer them that I haven’t already shown them?

Look at your post. Everything in it is feelings, emotions, words. Philosophy. All if which is easily destroyed by narratives from the very people I mentioned earlier. All it takes is the telling of a story.

[WuWei]

@altair1013

@WuWei

It wasn’t enough and that was a continuation of Obama’s economy that is gone now because Republicans blew the corona response. The GOP is led by a racist.

See how easy it is to erase?

Yep. Race is their best weapon. And they are not shy about using it.

Nor should they be, it’s real. It is their context. Racism is the natural state. It will always exist. And therefore must be fought even if we can’t see it. Just like fascism.

It existed once, therefore it will always exist. I just have to find it and point it out. It’s everywhere in everything.

[Jezcoe]

@WuWei

@Jezcoe

To be considered as equal.

Look at the conversations that are had around African American voters.

Words like plantation, leaders and inner city are thrown around.

Sell them the product of GOP political philosophy and how it could work for them.

Don’t just say that they are being fooled by the Dems. Give an actual alternative that they want.

A different path to the same outcome.

What platform plank do I as a GOP candidate offer rural religious black voters to show I consider them equal?

They are going to vote practically en masse for the candidate who has already promised to raise taxes. What do I offer them that I haven’t already shown them?

Look at your post. Everything in it is feelings, emotions, words. Philosophy. All if which is easily destroyed by narratives from the very people I mentioned earlier. All it takes is the telling of a story.

Tell a better story.

[altair1013]

@Jezcoe

The GOP needs to stop being constant victims about why they can’t get the black vote.

Work for it.

The DNC certainly doesn’t work for it. Totally taking the black vote for granted. Offering them nothing but victim status. Claiming they cannot succeed without the democrats helping them. They have done nothing but weaponize race for over 50 years. The blacks who have left the party may have left for that reason. Among others.

[Jezcoe]

@altair1013

@Jezcoe

The GOP needs to stop being constant victims about why they can’t get the black vote.

Work for it.

The DNC certainly doesn’t work for it. Totally taking the black vote for granted. Offering them nothing but victim status. Claiming they cannot succeed without the democrats helping them. They have done nothing but weaponize race for over 50 years. The blacks who have left the party may have left for that reason. Among others.

Making a black woman the VP pick is a nod to their most loyal voters.

Diversifying the representation of the party is part of the story that they tell to win over voters.

Stop being a victim about how the GOP can’t win the African American vote and go out and get it.