What the hell is systematic racism?

[WuWei]

@IndependentMindedJoe

I am guilty by always assuming that people had it equal when they don’t. You can always work your way out of things, but in America we have a system that isn’t equal as it should. Its like having a wall where the top is prosperity. Me being white, I can climb it easily by just grabbing it since its head height. But black people start off in a ditch created by years of slavery, and hatred. They still can climb it and nobody told them they can’t.They are starting off life at a disadvantage. yes, we can both get to the top of that wall, but I am guilty of not helping my fellow Americans climb out of the hole my ancestors dug. That is systemic racism. By seeing the hole and not filling it, we sure are guilty then.

No, that is not systemic racism. It is privilege. Jim Crow laws were systemic racism.

[IndependentMindedJoe]

@altair1013

What is the most obvious systemic racist problem within your company?

Fact is, I live in a majority black part of town and I know maybe 2 black people. The heads are all white as well. I work in a business that requires a computer science degree. So, either blacks don’t like computers or only white people do.

[PurpnGold]

@altair1013

But you also falsely claimed that the DNC is not part of the problem.

Show me

@altair1013

Systemic doesn’t mean only systemic for republicans and democrats get a pass. Or does it?

Did I make any mention of a political party? You keep making up these narratives and applying them to me.

[IndependentMindedJoe]

I agree actually. Good point. It is hard to define a system but define one thing. One thing isn’t itself racist, its the accumulation of lots of privilege that drives the system.

[Samm]

@PurpnGold

@altair1013

Those were formed over a hundred years ago. Anybody can leave them at any time. Let’s stick with the 21st century, not the 19th. What is your experience with systemic racism. How are you guilty?

Before 9/11/01

No TSA. Ability to meeting family and friends at the terminal. Could bring liquids on a plane from outside the airport.Could park outside of baggage claim and longer.

6/8/20

TSA exists. All rules above prohibited or restricted.

This is a near example of how a system can affect people for decades or generations. Just because something happened 50 years ago (Jim Crow) or 400 (slavery) doesn’t mean it doesn’t have an impact on society today.

The entire government was built to keep 1 race in power. It kept that power in an overt fashion for almost 200 years.

Systemic racism is built IN not bolted ON.

TSA. Security check points. Can bring

Are you saying that TSA is a racist institution? Which race do they discriminate against?

[conan]

So are you saying Blacks don’t participate?

[altair1013]

@IndependentMindedJoe

@altair1013

What is the most obvious systemic racist problem within your company?

Fact is, I live in a majority black part of town and I know maybe 2 black people. The heads are all white as well. I work in a business that requires a computer science degree. So, either blacks don’t like computers or only white people do.

At my company our best I.T. man is black. How did he make it past systemic racism and your folks did not? This should not be possible. Systemic racism effects everyone. That’s why we call it systemic. Right?

[WuWei]

@IndependentMindedJoe

I agree actually. Good point. It is hard to define a system but define one thing. One thing isn’t itself racist, its the accumulation of lots of privilege that drives the system.

Not racism?

[Samm]

@PurpnGold

There has been progress but we are still dealing with the Some of the same issueS that were around during the Watts Riots

You are right. Anarchists and looters and those who will exploit any situation they can to engage in destruction and mayhem are still with us.

[IndependentMindedJoe]

I think its deeper. Its easier to see systemic racism by starting off with the premise that if there wasn’t systemic racism we would see equal or close to equal representation of race and sex within key elements of our economic and social system. Do we see that?

[WuWei]

@PurpnGold

There has been progress but we are still dealing with the Some of the same issueS that were around during the Watts Riots

Which were caused by what?

[IndependentMindedJoe]

@IndependentMindedJoe

k its deeper. Its easier to see systemic racism by starting off with the premise that if there wasn’t systemic racism we would see equal or close to equal representation of race and sex within key

More or less, we have trouble defining it, but you see the consequences of it.

[PurpnGold]

@Samm

Are you saying that TSA is a racist institution? Which race do they discriminate against?

Nope. As a matter of fact, TSA isn’t really the point of the comparison.

Something that happened to our country 20 years ago, still impacts us today. Just like something that happened 50 years ago can impact people today (like Jim Crow)

[PurpnGold]

@Samm

You are right. Anarchists and looters and those who will exploit any situation they can to engage in destruction and mayhem are still with us.

You are focusing on the what… but not the why.

[CanadianJudo]

@altair1013

@Impenitent

systemic racism… maybe not what is expected…

reservations are perfect examples

Those were formed over a hundred years ago. Anybody can leave them at any time. Let’s stick with the 21st century, not the 19th. What is your experience with systemic racism. How are you guilty?

If you leave the reservation you loose all your rights as an Indian.

[WuWei]

@IndependentMindedJoe

@IndependentMindedJoe

k its deeper. Its easier to see systemic racism by starting off with the premise that if there wasn’t systemic racism we would see equal or close to equal representation of race and sex within key

More or less, we have trouble defining it, but you see the consequences of it.

It’s not hard to define at all.

[Camp]

Still lacking a succinct and clear definition.

When we get one the problem will be 2/3 solved.

[altair1013]

@IndependentMindedJoe

I think its deeper. Its easier to see systemic racism by starting off with the premise that if there wasn’t systemic racism we would see equal or close to equal representation of race and sex within key elements of our economic and social system. Do we see that?

Is the DNC guilty of systemic racism?

[CanadianJudo]

@altair1013

@IndependentMindedJoe

I think its deeper. Its easier to see systemic racism by starting off with the premise that if there wasn’t systemic racism we would see equal or close to equal representation of race and sex within key elements of our economic and social system. Do we see that?

Is the DNC guilty of systemic racism?

Yes racism isn’t a left vs right issue.

[WuWei]

@CanadianJudo

@altair1013

@Impenitent

systemic racism… maybe not what is expected…

reservations are perfect examples

Those were formed over a hundred years ago. Anybody can leave them at any time. Let’s stick with the 21st century, not the 19th. What is your experience with systemic racism. How are you guilty?

If you leave the reservation you loose all your rights as an Indian.

Such as?