What does the UK election say about 2020 in the US?

Do you actually think the Queen rules Great Britain?

And the dems complete takeover of VIrginia.

Allan

Globalism is great for the Globalist and certain political elite, but there are many negatives for certain aspects of the poor and working class citizens of a country.

Yes the rise of right wing populism in Europe has never gone wrong before.

This whole thread is literally full of Brits talking about how this election had nothing to do with anything that translates into American politics and here you all still are.

I expect it to be much worst this time around. They’re going to be pissed off that their masters let them down, they’re going to be pissed off at Trump supporters, they’re going to be pissed off at the system itself…and thous the system needs to be totally smashed.

Wasn’t just Brexit though. Corbyn is an awful leader and an anti-semite.

So Brexit was the sole issue. Why do they want to exit so badly?

The London elite certainly have no love for Brexit supporters:

Substitute Trump for Brexit and there are similar feelings in the US elites in Washington, New York, Hollywood, etc. Here is a description of the Washington elite’s perception of Trump voters dating back to the Republican primaries:

And here is a more recent description of feelings from the media elites about Trump voters. Multiply the distain from the never-Trump Republicans by several times and you have an idea of the feelings of the Democrats in congress and the media:

Many who did not vote for Trump loathe him with the intensity of a white-hot poker prodding at their soul. Their hair is still on fire, and nothing in the world can extinguish it until he is out of the White House, preferably in handcuffs. If you are a reporter who lives and works within the counties that surround Washington, D.C.; New York; Chicago; or Los Angeles, it’s been a tough go. You don’t work with anyone in your newsroom who would have voted for Trump. . . They see the Trump voters as foolish or fooled at best, and as bigoted, unintelligent, and backward at worst.

A desire to “smash the system” is what die hard Trump supporters crave, so they should be natural allies of Antifa.

:sunglasses:

The left behinds in the Uk are anti-immigrant, just like here in the US.

Allan

Yeah just like about 98% of threads on Hannity Forums

And Johnson is anti-Islamic. Too bad no one cares about that.

Those left behinds did include a lot of what was the Democratic and Labour base. They are the ones who get the attention in the U.S. because of the rustbelt but it’s more complex than that.

There are some of us that do quiet well and don’t mind immigration at a certain level, it’s just the speed of it across the west that upended the apple cart and help put us were we are today. It’s hard to think at the same time of 100,000’s of jobs being shipped overseas while simultaneously bringing in workers both blue and white collar to work at lower wages there wouldn’t be blowback.

I don’t think I’d put too much stock in that theory. IF anything the election of Trump likely helped them start to focus on cleaning out their own swamp.

It’s still about a 52-48 split. Labour was all over the place on Brexit messaging, Tories kept it quite simple.

And it wasn’t the sole issue, just the biggest. Well, Corbyn himself was possibly a bigger drag on labour than their Brexit positions, though their Brexit positions were due to him as well.

Even some who voted remain just want it over and done with, as its dragged on for years. What many don’t realise is that leaving the EU would only really be the start of Brexit, not the end.

It will dominate UK politics for decades. It isn’t going to be over and done with.

As to why people want to exit? They blame many of the UK ills on the EU. Most don’t even understand what the EU is or what it does, so it has been a convenient scapegoat for tabloids and politicians for decades.

Sure it does, Brexit is primarily fueled by immigration, last time I checked we had a similar issue.

Thanks.

Esp with the SNP nipping at their heels about separating from the UK.

Allan

Except it’s not? Unless you simplify it down to meaninglessness?