They’re getting desperate. There will NEVER be any delivery on the WaPo reporting.
Just another hoax/coup.
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They’re getting desperate. There will NEVER be any delivery on the WaPo reporting.
Just another hoax/coup.
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I’ve never said anything of the kind.
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And I never said anything of the kind here either…
But ORANGE MAN BAD!!!
- Illegally soliciting campaign help from a foreign government
- Bribery
- Misappropriation
- Conspiracy
Good grief!! Points 2, 3, & 4 just pulling things out of thin air! I won’t even address those.
As far as #1 If it’s illegal to solicit foreign aide in a campaign that would mean that Hillary committed a crime when her campaign and the DNC solicited
and paid $1 Million for the foreign sourced dossier against President Trump. Once again its double standard authoritarianism and as one of our greatest Presidents once said “you can’t fool all of the people all of the time”!
Good grief!! Points 2, 3, & 4 just pulling things out of thin air! I won’t even address those.
They are not points. They are potential crimes committed, as the article laid out, where these came from.
As far as #1 If it’s illegal to solicit foreign aide in a campaign that would mean that Hillary committed a crime when her campaign and the DNC solicited
and paid $1 Million for the foreign sourced dossier against President Trump. Once again its double standard authoritarianism and as one of our greatest Presidents once said “you can’t fool all of the people all of the time”!
Perhaps in the world of alternative reality this is true. But here in the real world, this is little more than CEC conspiracy theory rubbish.
Time to prosecute the people responsible for changing the “whistleblower” rules and to prosecute the leakers.
Strike three enough is enough.
Are you referring to the first hand knowledge needed by a whislteblower?
According to a well respected whistleblower attorney in DC, that rule never existed.
https://twitter.com/MarkSZaidEsq/status/1178632834988281856?s=20
DougBH: JayJay:I see you are using the “If we repeat the lie that Biden threatened Ukraine to get Shokin fired because he was investigating Hunter Biden often enough, it will magically become the truth” defense.
You saw what you imagined, not what I said. I said there was a quid pro quo based on Biden not releasing our money to Ukraine unless they fired the prosecutor. Biden has bragged about doing that. You can find the video online. I said nothing about his motive for wanting the prosecutor fired.
So then you agree what Biden did is a non-factor?
Except that politicians are supposed to avoid even the appearance of a conflict of interest.
DougBH: NebraskaFootball:Is what Trump did on the call with Zelensky okay with you? Is what his administration did in hiding the transcript on a code-word server okay with you?
Trump does not ask my permission and I do not sit …
Never mind. If you don’t think it was ok, just say so . I’ll say what I approve of and dont when I so choose and when I have seen enough facts.
If I want to.Is what Trump did on the call with Zelensky okay with you? Is what his administration did in hiding the transcript on a code-word server okay with you?
I know for a fact it was not okay. IT IS WRONG! Where do you stand here?
Why is Trump storing information in a more secure area WRONG, and Clinton storing classified data in a unsecured server just “meh, its Tuesday”?
NebraskaFootball: DougBH: JayJay:I see you are using the “If we repeat the lie that Biden threatened Ukraine to get Shokin fired because he was investigating Hunter Biden often enough, it will magically become the truth” defense.
You saw what you imagined, not what I said. I said there was a quid pro quo based on Biden not releasing our money to Ukraine unless they fired the prosecutor. Biden has bragged about doing that. You can find the video online. I said nothing about his motive for wanting the prosecutor fired.
So then you agree what Biden did is a non-factor?
Except that politicians are supposed to avoid even the appearance of a conflict of interest.
It would appear Donald Trump has ruined that political norm in spades.
Why is Trump storing information in a more secure area WRONG, and Clinton storing classified data in a unsecured server just “meh, its Tuesday”?
You didn’t want Clinton investigated back then? I did, same as now
NebraskaFootball: DougBH: NebraskaFootball:Is what Trump did on the call with Zelensky okay with you? Is what his administration did in hiding the transcript on a code-word server okay with you?
Trump does not ask my permission and I do not sit …
Never mind. If you don’t think it was ok, just say so . I’ll say what I approve of and dont when I so choose and when I have seen enough facts.
If I want to.Is what Trump did on the call with Zelensky okay with you? Is what his administration did in hiding the transcript on a code-word server okay with you?
I know for a fact it was not okay. IT IS WRONG! Where do you stand here?
Why is Trump storing information in a more secure area WRONG, and Clinton storing classified data in a unsecured server just “meh, its Tuesday”?
I don’t give two hoots about Clinton.
Are you okay with what Trump did on his call with Zelensky?
If you don’t see the issue with intent, surrounding the decision to move a political conversation that very likely was criminal in nature to a code-word server, so as to prevent it from being made public, covering up Trump’s potential crimes, then I’m not sure what there is to discuss brother.
Steel-W0LF: NebraskaFootball: DougBH: NebraskaFootball:Is what Trump did on the call with Zelensky okay with you? Is what his administration did in hiding the transcript on a code-word server okay with you?
Trump does not ask my permission and I do not sit …
Never mind. If you don’t think it was ok, just say so . I’ll say what I approve of and dont when I so choose and when I have seen enough facts.
If I want to.Is what Trump did on the call with Zelensky okay with you? Is what his administration did in hiding the transcript on a code-word server okay with you?
I know for a fact it was not okay. IT IS WRONG! Where do you stand here?
Why is Trump storing information in a more secure area WRONG, and Clinton storing classified data in a unsecured server just “meh, its Tuesday”?
I don’t give two hoots about Clinton.
Are you okay with what Trump did on his call with Zelensky?
If you don’t see the issue with intent, surrounding the decision to move a political conversation that very likely was criminal in nature to a code-word server, so as to prevent it from being made public, covering up Trump’s potential crimes, then I’m not sure what there is to discuss brother.
Yes I’m fine with it. Because by your logic no candidate for office can be investigated during the campaign because it could be for political gain.
Putin is nervous about what he and Trump discussed in private. This is not a good sign for Trump here. If he was brazen enough to ask for Zelensky’s assistance on a call he knew was monitored, what could he have asked Putin?
https://twitter.com/carlquintanilla/status/1178657775439757312?s=21
Yes I’m fine with it. Because by your logic no candidate for office can be investigated during the campaign because it could be for political gain.
Say what? No. By my logic the President of the United States should not use the power giving to them by We The People to further their own personal agenda against their chief political rivals by asking the President of a foreign nation to re-open a long-since closed investigation, and appointing their personal attorney to dig up dirt on already debunked conspiracy theories propagated by the CEC.
We have investigative departments here at home that are more than capable of doing this nonsense at the President’s behest. Namely the FBI.
To be frank, I am surprised you find this all to be okay, if I’m being honest with you.
Steel-W0LF:Yes I’m fine with it. Because by your logic no candidate for office can be investigated during the campaign because it could be for political gain.
Say what? No. By my logic the President of the United States should not use the power giving to them by We The People to further their own personal agenda against their chief political rivals by asking the President of a foreign nation to re-open a long-since closed investigation, and appointing their personal attorney to dig up dirt on an already debunked conspiracy theories propagated by the CEC.
We have investigative departments here at home that are more than capable of doing this nonsense at the President’s behest. Namely the FBI.
To be frank, I am surprised you find this all to be okay, if I’m being honest with you.
Our investigative departments “here at home” have no authority to investigate possible wrong doing in the Ukrain by Biden…
NebraskaFootball: Steel-W0LF:Yes I’m fine with it. Because by your logic no candidate for office can be investigated during the campaign because it could be for political gain.
Say what? No. By my logic the President of the United States should not use the power giving to them by We The People to further their own personal agenda against their chief political rivals by asking the President of a foreign nation to re-open a long-since closed investigation, and appointing their personal attorney to dig up dirt on an already debunked conspiracy theories propagated by the CEC.
We have investigative departments here at home that are more than capable of doing this nonsense at the President’s behest. Namely the FBI.
To be frank, I am surprised you find this all to be okay, if I’m being honest with you.
Our investigative departments “here at home” have no authority to investigate possible wrong doing in the Ukrain by Biden…
Well that is completely and totally false. What makes you think that we are not capable of investigating crimes by American citizens anywhere in the world? Especially as they relate to US statutes, which is what the conspiracy theory claims were broken here by Biden.
Again, I am a little surprised you have no issues with any of this. Carry on I guess brother.
NebraskaFootball: Steel-W0LF: NebraskaFootball: DougBH: NebraskaFootball:Is what Trump did on the call with Zelensky okay with you? Is what his administration did in hiding the transcript on a code-word server okay with you?
Trump does not ask my permission and I do not sit …
Never mind. If you don’t think it was ok, just say so . I’ll say what I approve of and dont when I so choose and when I have seen enough facts.
If I want to.Is what Trump did on the call with Zelensky okay with you? Is what his administration did in hiding the transcript on a code-word server okay with you?
I know for a fact it was not okay. IT IS WRONG! Where do you stand here?
Why is Trump storing information in a more secure area WRONG, and Clinton storing classified data in a unsecured server just “meh, its Tuesday”?
I don’t give two hoots about Clinton.
Are you okay with what Trump did on his call with Zelensky?
If you don’t see the issue with intent, surrounding the decision to move a political conversation that very likely was criminal in nature to a code-word server, so as to prevent it from being made public, covering up Trump’s potential crimes, then I’m not sure what there is to discuss brother.
Yes I’m fine with it. Because by your logic no candidate for office can be investigated during the campaign because it could be for political gain.
No…
If this was something that needed to ve investigated, why did it take 3 years and Biden being the frontrunner for the Democratic nomination for it to all of a sudden happen? Also, why the dog and pony show of holding up the aid money and then releasing it before asking for the favor.
To anyone not drinking the orange KoolAid, even if its not what actually happened, the perception that it might have is gonna leave a bad taste in thier mouth.
They are and Joe and Hunter both got pilloried for it when it happened.
However a conflict of interest is not itself a crime and there’s zero evidence Joe ever did anything that was against government policy but helped his son.
There simply isn’t no matter what John Solomon wants to share from 8Chan after he’s dressed it up to make it look like it didn’t come from 8Chan.
Sure they do.
Via the treaty that Roxie so kindly pointed out to us.
We have established channels for doing exactly that which don’t require the President’s personal attorney.
Steel-W0LF:Why is Trump storing information in a more secure area WRONG, and Clinton storing classified data in a unsecured server just “meh, its Tuesday”?
You didn’t want Clinton investigated back then? I did, same as now
Good. Then you are not opposed to a politician being investigated. I have been trying to find the law that prohibits a President from asking for an investigation into a possibly corrupt action of another politician. No luck, so far.