Well well well, 87% in pilot program don't show up for Asylem hearings

Snow96 · May 31, 2019, 3:42pm

I don’t have any numbers, not going to look for them.

Why don’t you e-mail brietbart and ask if they verified the numbers.

wiley8425 · May 31, 2019, 3:42pm

not going to look for them.

Well if you aren’t going to put in the effort to back your own OP, why do you expect anyone else to put any effort into it?

JayJay · May 31, 2019, 3:42pm

I did not say the story was fake either.

I said the numbers were not verified.

I can do this all day if this is the game you’re choosing to play. I’m bored today so what the hell?

Snow96 · May 31, 2019, 3:43pm

Sorry that was wiley saying it’s fake new.

wiley8425 · May 31, 2019, 3:46pm

A government official said the sky is green on Thursday. The rest of Congress would not comment on the official’s comment.

JayJay · May 31, 2019, 3:46pm

Then why are you acting like we should just accept the numbers as factual?

Snow96 · May 31, 2019, 3:48pm

Did they say it in testimony before congress . . . where if they lie they can be charged?

Jamerican · May 31, 2019, 3:48pm

Wait…this is from breitbart???
You guys always talking about fake news, well breitbart is the epitome of fake news.
OP creditability loss…thanks, but no thanks.

wiley8425 · May 31, 2019, 3:49pm

Did you provide a link to any actual testimony? Did Breitbart? Or did you provide what an anonymous official supposedly said at a Congressional hearing that supposedly happened, according to Breitbart? In other words, you took what Breitbart says at face value and ran with it instead of actually bothering to find out where they were getting their story from. I mean clearly you didn’t even bother to really read it since you seemed confused about what numbers were being disputed. Numbers in the very article you provided in the OP. When was this hearing? Who testified? Who heard the testimony? All things that would and should be included in an actual real news story. What do you call the OP? Then when questioned on it, do you look for data to support the story in the OP? Nope. Can’t be bothered. Makes sense.

JayJay · May 31, 2019, 3:52pm

Who says she lied?

party-free · May 31, 2019, 3:54pm

Snow, I think the better solution here is to start treating Breitbart as it deserves to be treated-as a propaganda arm of the Trump admin. Before believing a word that comes from that cesspool of #FakeNews, consider verifying anything they report before believing it. It’s honestly how we should treat most media, but with hack sites like Breitbart, WND, etc. becoming normalized, it’s part we all did our due diligence.

Jamerican · May 31, 2019, 4:00pm

Agree!!!
It really doesn’t matter if is right or left leaning, these hack sites are dangerous and has done a lot to divide and misinform Americans.

JayJay · May 31, 2019, 4:10pm

Which is all I was asking.

Note I even said I don’t automatically accept Durbin’s objection. I’d like to see HIS data that shows most asylum seekers are showing up for hearings.

And why so I want to see the data?

Because summary data is just that…summary data. To understand summary data you need all the relevant context.

I didn’t say Nathalie Asher was lying. I said we need verified numbers. Asking for the latter does not imply I am accusing her of the former.

And Snow…I did all these verifications in less than 5 minutes. It takes work to verify a story…but not all THAT much work.

I don’t see where what I asked of you was some onerous request.

Janet_Miller · May 31, 2019, 4:14pm

What source would anyone here consider to be a reputable source of information?

wiley8425 · May 31, 2019, 4:20pm

This seems like a good one.

It is the biggest foreign policy test to date for President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador, who during his six months in power has consistently sought to deflect Trump’s barbs and avoid embroiling himself in confrontations.

Lopez Obrador predicted the Trump administration would rectify the tariff threat and said that Foreign Minister Marcelo Ebrard would be in Washington working to convince the U.S. government that Trump’s measures were in neither country’s interest, and that Mexico was making progress containing migration.

Trump said on Thursday he would ratchet up tariffs unless Mexico stopped people from illegally crossing the border it shares with the United States. The plan would impose a 5% tariff on Mexican imports starting on June 10 and increase monthly, up to 25% on Oct. 1.

Speaking at his regular morning news conference, Lopez Obrador said he believed Trump would understand that the tariff threat was not the way to resolve the matter, and stressed that Mexicans had united behind his government.

“I tell all Mexicans to have faith, we will overcome this attitude of the U.S. government, they will make rectifications because the Mexican people doesn’t deserve to be treated in the way being attempted,” Lopez Obrador said.

Exports to the United States of goods from avocados to cars and televisions are vital to the Mexican economy. Mexico sends around 80 percent of its exports to the United States.

This is what it looks like when you have an adult in the room attempting to deal with petulant children.

Jamerican · May 31, 2019, 4:20pm

Wall street Journal
BBC
Politico

All 3 of these are quite reliable

Also…
For lefties, New Republic
Righties, National Review

biggestal99 · May 31, 2019, 5:01pm

You posted 87% in you OP.

isnt up to you, the OP to make sure the headline is correct.

I learned that from my “rove indicted” thread

Allan

madasheck · May 31, 2019, 5:26pm

Snow96:

Acting DHS Secretary Kevin McAleenan told Congress this month that those foreign nationals are eventually given work permits that allow them to take U.S. jobs while awaiting their asylum hearings.

So they show up seeking Asylem and that allows them to get a work permit to legally work in the United States. So what happens when they are notified that it’s time for their hearing?

The results, an ICE official told Congress, were that about 87 percent of illegal aliens, or almost 9-in-10, recently released by DHS into the U.S. did not show up to their asylum hearings.

They are NOT showing up when notified that it’s time to plead their case.

And of the 13% that did show up under the pilot program to their Asylum hearings?

In the same hearing, another federal immigration official said that only about 12 percent of border crossers and illegal aliens who complete their asylum processes actually end up qualifying for asylum — a statistic that underscores the enormous fraud and abuse in the country’s immigration system.

So you do the math (or extrapolation as some of you here like to do) on how many are REALLY here for legit Asylem. 87% not showing up. 12% of those who do show up are legit.

Those that are given work permits. If they fail to show, there should be a way to track the work permits and where they are working (aka taxes being paid) and the Federal Government should send a letter to those companies explaining the work permit has been revoked (no longer valid for legal work), and continued employment is against the law. If taxes still paid after a few months for the worker, the company is then fined for not terminating the now illegal employee. And Business that starts paying income taxes on that work permit, gets the same type letter that the person’s permit has been revoked and they can’t be legally employed. Along with that, any federal assistance programs the person my be enrolled in, terminated immediatly.

Nearly 9-in-10 Illegals Released into U.S. Not Showing Up to Court Dates

This is not a new issue. And a more reputable source, Politifact, says the opposite. I’ll believe them before your “source.” Which BB is not.

Jamerican · May 31, 2019, 5:42pm

Next time…DO BETTER!

Plasmaball · May 31, 2019, 5:46pm

We have video of trump staying certain things and we have his supporters on here stating he didn’t say it.

Video is no longer evidence