Was the virgin birth allegory?

[Guvnah]

@Guilds

If you are unable to answer

I think I made it clear that I am unwilling. Not unable.

[Guvnah]

@AlexMcAlpine

To what are you referring?

The post I quoted.

That’s how it works.

[Guvnah]

@AlexMcAlpine

And I am not speaking “for” you.

I’m coming to a conclusion based on the evidence before me.

I gave no evidence.

You are making unfounded assertions.

That’s putting words into my mouth.

[Guvnah]

@AlexMcAlpine

And it didn’t work.

Well it does for me.

@AlexMcAlpine

I just tried …

Not sure what else I can say here.

@AlexMcAlpine

I’m coming to a conclusion

I’m even picking snippets from separate replies you made.

@Guvnah

I think I made it clear

Even from different people’s replies.

[SimplyTrying]

To Catholics it is not allegory - don’t know about other Christian religions.

[TheRedComet]

I think all of the major denominations agree on the virgin birth being literal. I grew up in a semi-Evangelical Protestant Church and that is what we were taught.

[theduke]

@TheRedComet

I think all of the major denominations agree on the virgin birth being literal. I grew up in a semi-Evangelical Protestant Church and that is what we were taught.

@SimplyTrying

To Catholics it is not allegory - don’t know about other Christian religions

It’s not allegorical, and can be real even today. In one thread here, a poster gave a description how it occurred to a friend of his. It’s somewhere in this Category.

[SimplyTrying]

@theduke

@TheRedComet

I think all of the major denominations agree on the virgin birth being literal. I grew up in a semi-Evangelical Protestant Church and that is what we were taught.

@SimplyTrying

To Catholics it is not allegory - don’t know about other Christian religions

It’s not allegorical, and can be real even today. In one thread here, a poster gave a description how it occurred to a friend of his. It’s somewhere in this Category.

Cross pollination? Color me non-believing. Sorry.

[theduke]

@SimplyTrying

@theduke

@TheRedComet

I think all of the major denominations agree on the virgin birth being literal. I grew up in a semi-Evangelical Protestant Church and that is what we were taught.

@SimplyTrying

To Catholics it is not allegory - don’t know about other Christian religions

It’s not allegorical, and can be real even today. In one thread here, a poster gave a description how it occurred to a friend of his. It’s somewhere in this Category.

Cross pollination? Color me non-believing. Sorry.

I found it. It’s in the thread ‘‘Don’t call Us Mormons’’ It starts at about post #60. and continues about several post further down.
Seems real.

[SimplyTrying]

OK - I’ll check it out.

[SimplyTrying]

@Meriweather

@Guilds

His actual existence.

No record of it.

Actually, there is, and scholars agree he did exist. Whether he is who he claimed to be (or who authors claimed he was) is what is open for debate.

Wasn’t there a reliable historian around that time called Josephus? I seem to recall he verified a lot of early history. Maybe even 32 A.D.?

[SimplyTrying]

@SimplyTrying

@Meriweather

@Guilds

His actual existence.

No record of it.

Actually, there is, and scholars agree he did exist. Whether he is who he claimed to be (or who authors claimed he was) is what is open for debate.

Wasn’t there a reliable historian around that time called Josephus? I seem to recall he verified a lot of early history. Maybe even 32 A.D.?

He lived after Christ:

Josephus on Jesus

[Smyrna]

Is it possible there is a God? If so, then all else is possible too.

[theduke]

@Smyrna

Is it possible there is a God? If so, then all else is possible too.

Then isn’t any god/gods/goddess as possible as any other.

[Meriweather]

@Guilds

Every attempt to ban abortion.
Anti-LGBT laws.

Need more?

My husband is in favor of banning abortion. He is an atheist. Does his voice count? What anti-LGBT laws?

[Guilds]

@SimplyTrying

Wasn’t there a reliable historian around that time called Josephus? I seem to recall he verified a lot of early history. Maybe even 32 A.D.?

It was in the year 93. He did not witness it. He heard about it. And wrote about it.

Heresay. Not evidence.

[Guilds]

@Meriweather

My husband is in favor of banning abortion. He is an atheist. Does his voice count? What anti-LGBT laws?

Sure, his opinion counts. What is his reasoning?

As far as LGBT laws. It is perfectly legal to discriminate LGBT for renting a home, applying for a job, adopting a child.

From Wiki:
the United States has no federal law outlawing discrimination nationwide other than from federal executive orders which have a more limited scope than from protections through federal legislation. This leaves residents of some states unprotected against discrimination in employment, housing, and private or public services. Thus, LGBT persons in the United States may face challenges not experienced by non-LGBT residents.

[Meriweather]

@Guilds

Sure, his opinion counts. What is his reasoning?

Same as mine. No government should favor of killing the innocent.

[Meriweather]

@Guilds

Thus, LGBT persons in the United States may face challenges not experienced by non-LGBT residents.

So might single people. So might the obese. So might people who are not as attractive as others. So might people who stutter. And so on and so forth.

[AlexMcAlpine]

@Guvnah

1. The post I quoted.

2. That’s how it works.

1. I didn’t remember the post you quoted that you were responding to. A little bit of context would have helped.

2. But it works better if you provide a little context.