WAR in Ukraine, Putin approves initiation of special military operation (Part 3)

People die on that border all the time.

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Having the opinion that Zelenskyy left in a huff on his own volition is not a rationalization. Noting the donkeys can go where trucks cannot go is not a rationalization. Saying that Trump’s placating of Russia is him trying to get them to talk about peace is not a rationalization. Your opinion on those matters is one thing, but you need to get over yourself regarding opinions that differ from yours.

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I’m not that interested. If you want me to see it, provide it.

I never said otherwise. In fact, I never even considered that they might be used in assaults. Supply convoys are targets too. But thanks … I’m beginning to see the problem here. Your ego doesn’t like anyone to challenge your opinions.

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Okay. So thenwhat’s your problem with Trump’s process for getting the waring parties to the table? How would you do it? Would throwing more gasoline on the fire do it quicker with fewer deaths and less destruction? It’s one thing to say you are for peace; it’s another to actually do something that achieves it. Trump is the only one doing anything to try to end the war. Either get behind it or come up with an alternative.

You haven’t been reading his posts, have you.

Nonsense. The history of Europe is one of shifting boarders, but the peace that lasted from 1945 to 1992 was accomplished with no DMZs and that war in '92 was over dissolution of “artificial” boundaries (which were artifacts of the previous two wars not conquest. If Russia gets to keep what the now occupy, they will have no reason to risk their economy and internal political stability on another war to take the rest of it.

Of course that doesn’t mean that they would quit meddling in what remains of Ukraine to turn it into a puppet state like Belarus. But that doesn’t take force, it only takes subterfuge. And in a corrupt country like Ukraine it’s worth their while to keep trying.

Carrot and stick. That has been the process all along.

The Libs are going to eventually have to acknowledge that carrot and stick motivation works. But they are horrified that Trump may actually be right and could legitimately be nominated for a Peace Prize if a pact is signed ending the war.

And still in the works … a Trump facilitated agreement regarding Gaza …

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Last time I checked, the only reason Russians are dying is because they invaded Ukraine.

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A better example would be Austria after WW2. They fought in WW2 as part of Germany against the Soviet Union and its allies and lost. Between 1945 and 1955 they were under allied occupation with the Soviets in control over the capital of Vienna.

The Austrian State Treaty between the Soviet Union, the US, the UK, and France ended the occupation in 1955. Austrians have since enjoyed 70 years in prosperity and freedom as a neutral country without foreign troops or foreign military alliances.

Not even close. You embarrassed yourself badly. Did you think the vehicles racing across the frozen fields were doing supply drops? No, you knew better. But you did attempt to use the vehicles doing the assaults to conflate the truth I’ve stated about the Donkeys doing the supply drops… “Do they have trucks or not”… silly and stupid question, and you knew it when you tried to score that internet point… fail.

They are using Donkeys to drop supplies because they are short on supply trucks. They are short on supply trucks because they are using the ones they have to ferry infantry on assaults. They are using the trucks to do that, because they are running out of IFV’s and APC’s. They are running out of IFV’s and APC’s because Ukraine’s army is very good at blowing them up and their soviet store of equipment is depleted.

They are not using Donkey’s because they believe donkeys are the best thing to move supplies with. They are using them, because thats what they have.

Sorry to disappoint you. I’m not the least bit embarrassed. What I posted is spot on. Donkeys can succeed where trucks don’t.

no, what you posted is just more rationalizing ■■■■■■■■■

:point_up_2: There’s that bruised ego again.

didn’t you say just yesterday that if he said mean things toward Putin he wouldn’t come to the table?

there’s that denial again.

its also not true

it is when the trucks can go there

most certainly is

pot/kettle

Threatening sanctions if he refuses to play is not saying mean things about him.

Petulance is not a pretty look.

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