They should send Zelenskyy the thank you card with a dozen roses for acting like a little bitch in the Oval Office.
I support some of Trumpâs moves on this issue and disagree with others. I know thatâs way too nuanced for this board.
Ah. Is that what passes in your circles for clever?
Must be do extremely small circles.
Kinda what I said yesterday.
What if it were your children fighting and dying?
You mean if my country was invaded by an aggressive neighbor and my family and neighbors were fighting for their existence? I would still agree with some of Trumpâs moves and disagree with others.
Why is this sounding to me like the Biden approach to Russia with different window dressing?
Trump threatens Russia with sanctions and tarriffs unless they negotiate a ceasefire deal.
I thought he was on the Russians side?
Their country was invaded.

Ben_Natuf:
I guess theyâll have to send Trump a thankyou card for cutting off the intel that warned Ukraine of Russian attacks. Trumpâs Ukraine policy seems to be speeding up the death Ukranians. Putin is happy
They should send Zelenskyy the thank you card with a dozen roses for acting like a little bitch in the Oval Office.
How did that stop the intel? Oh wait thatâs right. Feelings were hurt. That means death

Perhaps they believed the prospect of spending the rest of his life in prison using blantantly political prosecutions would force Trump out of the race.
Perhaps they believed that Trump would face the same fate as the Kennedy brothers if he challenged the permanent state. They were only an inch or two off in that assessment.
Youâre probably right. This is something I didnât consider. But in hindsight, I think this is true. Then they tried to kill him.
The former head of MI6 was involved in efforts to frame the Trump campaign as Russian operatives back in 2016. Last year he had this to say about the threat of a Trump reelection:
âWell seen from an intelligence perspective, the two things we need to worry about. Obviously, Ukraine and what Chinaâs long-term behavior globally is going to be, particularly in relation to Taiwan and how threatening China is to Western interests. You have to add a political threat, which Iâm worried about, which is, uh, Trumpâs reelection, which I think for the UKâs national security, is problematic because if Trump, as it were, acts hastily and damages, the Atlantic alliance, that is a big deal for the UK.
"Weâve put all our eggs, in defense terms, in the NATO basket. If Trump really is serious about, as it were, changing the balance, I mean, the American nuclear umbrella for Europe, itâs, in my view, essential to Europeâs security and defense.ââformer head of MI6, January 2024
Former Head of MI6 Warns Donald Trumpâs Reelection is a âNational Securityâ Risk For the UK
MI6 has long had close relations with ultranationalist paramilitaries in Ukraine. Is it just a coincidence that Ryan Rooth, the second alleged assassin, appeared in an Azov video in 2022?
https://x.com/ChiefTrumpster/status/1835494617728340408

Their country was invaded.
So that explains why do many on this very board think we should drag our feet on the peace process?
What if it was their children fighting and dying?

FreeAndClear:
Their country was invaded.
So that explains why do many on this very board think we should drag our feet on the peace process?
What if it was their children fighting and dying?
I donât disagree with that. I take issue with the other costs. Both long term and short term. What stops Russia from killin more of them in 5 years?

What stops Russia from killin more of them in 5 years?
An adequate peace plan, and following truce.
Has kept the peace between N and S Korea for almost 75 years.

An adequate peace plan, and following truce.
Has kept the peace between N and S Korea for almost 75 years.
Good comparison. I think any lasting peace in Ukraine is going to require a SK/NK-like DMZ.

I would still agree with some of Trumpâs moves and disagree with others.
Yup big joke while other peopleâs children are dying.
Would you like to inform all of us here about the intel that you have that the president doesnât have.

Yup big joke while other peopleâs children are dying.
Whoâs joking?

Would you like to inform all of us here about the intel that you have that the president doesnât have.
I canât disagree with Trump unless I have special intel? Is that the standard you held yourself to with Biden?

Good comparison. I think any lasting peace in Ukraine is going to require a SK/NK-like DMZ.
Thanks. Spent a year 8 miles south of the DMZ.

I canât disagree with Trump unless I have special intel? Is that the standard you held yourself to with Biden?
Not what I am saying at all.
Just wondering what intel or insights you may have that lead you to believe Trump is negotiating incorrectly.
Personally, I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt as I believe he is in possession of more information than I am.

FreeAndClear:
What stops Russia from killin more of them in 5 years?
An adequate peace plan, and following truce.
Has kept the peace between N and S Korea for almost 75 years.
You donât really want to use that example with a straight face.