NATO leaders keep repeating the line “We will stand with Ukraine as long as it takes.”
As long as it takes for what?
The obvious answer is “For as long as it takes for Ukrainian army to collapse. Then we will cut our losses and leave like we did in Afghanistan and Vietnam.”
Straight from the Ukrainian Ministry of Truth:
How do you train a myth?
https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1577748028643065860
So the video is UGI?
Or the video is actually a video of Disney World?
Sure, it is inconvenient to you that the video was reposted at a pro- American pro-Ukrainian source and would never be posted at an anti-American or Pro-Russian site.
That does not mean it is false.
It means when you rely only on anti-American sources you are not getting the whole story.
The video is really a video. Likewise, the video of the Ghost of Kyiv was a real clip from a real video game, but the Ghost of Kyiv is a myth.
Whether the new video represents what Gerashchenko says it does is anyone’s guess. For example, it may be ten years old or come from some other location.
The arrangement looks like it was designed for manual operation. Here is a similar one from Michigan:
The Ukrainian video may simply show a Soviet-era manual ferry that has never been updated.
So the video of Russian commuters forced to hand ferry their cars across a river . . . is a tourist attraction in Russia? Gee they don’t look very happy.
More likely:
the Russian economy is crushed and the ferry in the video must be hand-pulled either because Russia is out of money or because they need a part from Germany.
Are the Russians in the video getting a great benefit form the war?
The resolution is too low to see facial expressions, but there is a woman’s voice laughing at the end of the video as the ferry lands. No one appears to be working very hard.
This looks like an old-fashioned manual ferry that has been there for many years. If you want to get your car across the river, you are expected to help to move the ferry.
These kinds of things used to be common in the US. Here is one from the Alabama in the 1930s.
They are still found in parts of Europe.
You’ve brought up this same “Ghost of Kyiv” example dozens of times over the past year. Can’t you come up with any other examples? Maybe something more recent? If anything, you’re proving that Ukraine is pumping out propaganda at a much slower rate than Russia is.
What propaganda is needed?
Russia unilaterally invaded and tried to conquer Ukraine. Ukraine fought back hard, was aided by the West until Russia was forced to hold a line with only small gains in the South and East. Both Russia and Ukraine have lost an enormous amount of lives in the process.
The main propaganda from Russia is that they had a right to invade because…NATO expansionism man! Meanwhile Finland and Sweden have borders with Russia and will actually join NATO…unlike Ukraine which was not on track to join NATO.
I don’t believe a word Zelensky says myself.
Imo he’s just as untrustworthy as Putin.
You go.
Western media is little more than an informercial for war mongers, so the examples are so numerous it is hard to pick one.
Kim Iversen created a good list of propaganda from early in war.
US intel officials admitted back in April that they are reporting speculation and rumors as facts in order to support the war effort. They have certainly been following their stated path.
“multiple U.S. officials acknowledged that the U.S. has used information as a weapon even when confidence in the accuracy of the information wasn’t high. Sometimes it has used low-confidence intelligence for deterrent effect….”
https://cnsnews.com/commentary/ron-paul/ron-paul-cia-admits-feeding-americans-unsubstantiated-info-about-ukraine
Recent news shows some crazy turns. In November, the White House said that any peace negotiations are up to Ukraine.
“Secretary (Blinken) reiterated that the timing and contents of any negotiation framework remains Ukraine’s decision,” State Department spokesperson Ned Price said.
https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2022-11-12/ukraine-will-make-decision-on-any-negotiations-with-russia-blinken
Now the White House is saying that the US will block any cease fire suggestions from China with no mention of what Ukraine wants.
National Security Council spokesman John Kirby said Monday morning that Ukraine should reject any ceasefire offer that comes out of Chinese President Xi’s trip to Russia this week.
“We would reject it as well. We think that that’s an unacceptable outcome right now,” Kirby told CNN. NSC's Kirby: Ukraine Should Reject Any Russian-Chinese Ceasefire Plan | Video | RealClearPolitics
https://twitter.com/aaronjmate/status/1637627032686190593
Basically the western media is best visualized as a huge fire hose connected to a high-powered sewage pump of lies and misinformation.
thats not what he said.
I agree; the White House is not blocking any cease fire.
The White House is rejecting any cease fire proposal that comes out of the meeting between Xi and Putin.
If Xi suggests, we reject it. The details are irrelevant, and Ukraine’s opinion is not even a consideration.
also not what they said
if we choose to reject it, thats our choice, if we believe ukraine should reject it thats our opinion, but its their choice.
Xi’s plan is not a peace plan, its a save Russia plan.
Have you seen Xi’s plan?
Why should the US reject something we have not even seen?
Sweden does not border Russia.
The Whitehouse will eat its words if Xi proposes that Russia withdraw unconditionally and pay restitution and Putin agrees.
What are the chances? 
Russia threatening ballistic mistakes over Biden statements now. Brilliant! Bidens stoking ww3 and doesn’t know it. Worst foreign policy president in my lifetime.
Biden wants WW3 his actions and words show it.
