WAR in Ukraine, Putin approves initiation of special military operation (Part 2)

The vast majority of Ukrainians celebrate Christmas on January 7, but the White House calls a proposed Christmas truce a “cynical ploy”.

Bummer. If only Putin had a way to end this war single handedly, and send the soldiers home for the holidays. And beyond.

Russia declared a Christmas truce and Ukrainian forces immediate broke it according to Russian reports. Sad.

The trench warfare in Donbass is similar to that of WW1. Who opposed a Christmas truce back then?

Who in their right mind would believe anything that Putin/Russia says?

If Putin/Russia wants a ceasefire then they should pull their forces back into Russia. Then maybe Ukraine will take them seriously.

The only one to blame for all of the deaths and destruction is Putin.

how do you “break” a ceasefire you did not agree to?

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War crimes trials of Russians (and only Russians of course) are a Ukrainian precondition for any negotiations. The stated objective from Washington is to weaken Russia, and the US government is funding groups looking at the best ways to partition Russia.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/25/politics/biden-administration-russia-strategy/index.html

The war would not end if Russia withdrew from Ukraine, just like NATO expansion did not end with the withdrawal of Russian forces from eastern Europe. The neocons run things in Washington, and they treat world like a game of Risk.

And Russia has states that any negotiations must start with the point that the annexed land is Russian :joy:

Yeah these are serious :face_with_monocle:

Yes, perhaps a better precondition would be that NATO has to return to its 1989 borders.

It looks like the shelling in Donbass may be an isolated incident and the cease fire is working. That would be good news.

It’s amazing that everyone but Putin should be making consessions.

Betcha if Russia goes home, Ukraine will let them. Maybe Putin should try that for Christmas.

Exactly.

Which also why Putin wants to negotiate now … while his troops still occupy Ukrainian lands.

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That should be Putin’s cease fire offer … “don’t shoot, we’re leaving.”

NATO was originally a purely defensive organization. Its mission was to prevent a Soviet invasion of western Europe. Logically NATO should have ended with the end of the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact.

Instead NATO expanded its mission. Every crisis is Czechoslovakia 1938. Every opponent is another Hitler or worse. Bombings, invasions, and occupations by NATO and its proxies are characterized as humanitarian missions to prevent enemy atrocities.

That was the narrative in Yugoslavia, a country that posed no threat to the US or its NATO allies. The US waged a war of disinformation and subversion to destroy the nation. Details of the war have been confirmed in recently declassified reports from Canadian peacekeepers. The techniques used by the US in Yugoslavia closely parallel those seen in Ukraine as well as in Libya, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. For details see:

Are there any other country on this list that is worth $110 Billion U.S. taxpayer dollars and increasing. And not to mention were broke.

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there would be no war if russia never invaded in the first place. of course it would end if they left

No, the civil war that started in 2014 after the US-backed coup would still be going on. The Ukrainian shelling of civilians in Donbas would still be going on. The 2015 peace agreements that guaranteed autonomy to Russian-speaking areas of eastern Ukraine would still be ignored.

Angela Merkel recently admitted that the Minsk agreements were meant to give Ukraine time to build up its military and were not intended to provide actual peace:

“The 2014 Minsk agreement was an attempt to give time to Ukraine. It also used this time to become stronger as can be seen today. The Ukraine of 2014-2015 is not the modern Ukraine.”–Angela Merkel
https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/merkel:-minsk-agreement-attempted-to-give-ukraine-time

https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/moscow-finds-the-merkel-confessions-concrete-grounds-for-a-t

Of course, US troops and massive amounts of US weapons going to support the Saudi-led bombing campaign and invasion in Yemen are rarely mentioned in the US media.

Great post.

They admit to $50B so far, so it’s probably double that.

thee was no coup; however, yes russia did invade ukraine in 2014.

The best evidence is that many of the Maidan shootings originated from nationalist extremists. The case put forth by the Ukrainian government was quickly debunked in western media.

The deaths were used as a pretext to remove the elected president. From what I see, the circumstances were similar to the Czechoslovak coup in 1948 but with greater bloodshed.

Russia already had a large military base in Sevastopol. Russian troops occupied the rest of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea with the consent of the local government in 2014. The situation was similar to that of US forces in the Autonomous Province of Kosovo and Metohija. If Russia invaded Crimea in 2014, then the US invaded Kosovo in 1999.

Russia sent military aid and brought in foreign fighters to support forces associated with Russian-speaking Ukrainians in Donbas who pushed for local autonomy. The local autonomy was later recognized in the 2015 Minsk agreements. The US provided similar support to Muslim minorities in Yugoslavia in the 1990s.

Ukraine is Yugoslavia 2.0 with Russia following the playbook created by the US.