Voter ID in California?

[komobu]

I saw this and thought it was interesting.

Measure 1 in Huntington Beach California put a Ballot Initiative on the ballot asking if Voter ID should be a requirement for voting in Huntington Beach. The ballot initiative passed by 53%. So they instituted Voter ID in the city.

The State of California took out a lawsuit against Huntington Beach because Gavin Newsome signed SB1174 into law right before the election, and this prohibits any local governments from passing Voter ID Laws.

The Judge that ended up ruling on the law, said that the state SB1174 was unconstitutional and the locality could implement Voter ID.

Since 70% of the electorate supports Voter ID, both Dem and Rep, I wonder how long it will take for it to be instituted in areas all across the state.

Newsom JUST got SCREWED by Judge as Trump FLIPS Voter ID

[gooddad409]

Great news!

There’s only one reason to oppose voter ID and it is not an honorable one.

[SpadeMarlowe]

Since only rich and afluent people live there now they can’t say that ‘poor people can’t get and ID’.

But…it’s CA.
They’re known to vote on a proposition and then turn around and not honor it and use it.
So…WHO is a threat to Democracy !

[Smyrna]

@komobu

The Judge that ended up ruling on the law, said that the state SB1174 was unconstitutional and the locality could implement Voter ID.

Isn’t it great when…corruption meets integrity…head on and is stopped?

[Nemesis]

Nothing wrong with voter ID as long as those who do not have a drivers license or passport are able to get a state issued ID free of charge.

The state needs to remove all obstacles to individuals to getting a state issued ID.

[SixFoot]

The public square has been discussing this since the election. Horrible almost exclusively won states that don’t require ID.

California’s citizens voted to ban gay marriage. Their citizens will vote for Voter ID requirements. It’s their jackbooted government telling them that they don’t know what’s best for themselves.

These dominoes too will fall.

[SixFoot]

@Nemesis

Nothing wrong with voter ID as long as those who do not have a drivers license or passport are able to get a state issued ID free of charge.

The state needs to remove all obstacles to individuals to getting a state issued ID.

You should have to pay the cost of materials to make that ID card (i.e. way less than 5 bucks). Nobody else owes you that card with their tax dollars. 20+ bucks for an ID card is state-sanctioned thievery.

[komobu]

Thinking that people dont have an ID is either racist or elitist. If they really dont have an ID, they should get their own house in order before they worry about the “Govt” house.

[Nemesis]

I disagree, no barriers to the cost of a state ID if ID is needed to vote.

Its not the dollar amount but more the principle that voting should not be a poll tax. It starts to create a process of normalizing restrictions on voting and imho start of a slippery slope.

[komobu]

@Nemesis

no barriers to the cost of a state ID if ID is needed to vote

On this we agree. So there shouldnt be a “Special” ID to vote… It should be a typical ID that any citizen would already have, such as a Drivers license or State Issued Photo ID Card which is alreay required for many other things in our society. As a result, it shouldnt have to be “Free”

[SixFoot]

@Nemesis

I disagree, no barriers to the cost of a state ID if ID is needed to vote.

Its not the dollar amount but more the principle that voting should not be a poll tax. It starts to create a process of normalizing restrictions on voting and imho start of a slippery slope.

I don’t owe you an ID, and any homeless bum can come up with 5 bucks.

[Cratic3947]

We pay so much tax in Cal both ID’s and car registration should be free…

[Axxowiz]

See this is where we differ, why should someone who is not paying taxes and can’t afford a drivers license be able to vote to raise my property taxes that I pay into the system towards the social safety net.

If I was in power, I’d bring back a poll tax if you don’t own a house you can’t vote on how my property gets taxed. Lord knows I can’t vote for all the handouts they get

[Nemesis]

Yeah thats never going to happen. And yes you can vote for candidates who want to eliminate public programs/welfare.

[TheRedComet]

Come on man. There’s a bad history with that.

It reeks of that Active-Passive Citizen thing the French played around with in the 1790s. And it ended with people getting their heads cut off.

[FreeAndClear]

@Axxowiz

See this is where we differ, why should someone who is not paying taxes and can’t afford a drivers license be able to vote to raise my property taxes that I pay into the system towards the social safety net.

If I was in power, I’d bring back a poll tax if you don’t own a house you can’t vote on how my property gets taxed. Lord knows I can’t vote for all the handouts they get

Who votes on property taxes?

[FreeAndClear]

@TheRedComet

Come on man. There’s a bad history with that.

It reeks of that Active-Passive Citizen thing the French played around with in the 1790s. And it ended with people getting their heads cut off.

He wants a poll tax for voting on something that isn’t decided by vote.

[Ben_Natuf]

odd, that is exactly what NC and GA do, and yet…

[Oryx]

@Axxowiz

See this is where we differ, why should someone who is not paying taxes and can’t afford a drivers license be able to vote to raise my property taxes that I pay into the system towards the social safety net.

You don’t vote on property taxes, you vote on representatives who vote on property taxes.

[Axxowiz]

Yeah, I understand it goes to a lot of places, for instance to schools in which I have no children so I have to pay for other people’s children. Regardless of what program its funding it’s coming from taxes and outside of 11 states school boards can levy property tax increases by themselves, I don’t agree with this practice.

Property shouldn’t be used as the states piggy bank.