US Space Force Prepares to Defend the Forest Moon of Endor

[RayStark]

@WorldWatcher

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OK, I know I’m a squid…

But why do you want woodland camouflage pattern on the utility uniform. Lots of trees and dirt in space is there?

Just Groot.

[zantax]

@merickson

There is a long history of fiction about fighting in space.
But the current reality is that there aren’t any assets in space (no drugs made in 0-g factories, yet. No diamond mines on the moon.) We (the planet earth) gets nothing from space that is (as yet) worth fighting over.

There are intermediate assets (like communication satellites) in space, that one might destroy or defend. Spy satellites would fall into this or the next category.

There is the possibility of direct military threats (like orbiting launch platforms) that the US might want to create (or defend against the enemy’s).

But AFAIK, there isn’t enough need at this point for a whole new branch needed to address the military implications of space. Standing study groups yes, but a whole new slew of arm patches, no.

We waste enough money on preparing for likely military needs on the surface of the Earth. This Space Force seems mostly like a way to suck even more money into “preparing against the possibility” of even less likely scenarios that we already waste money on.

Looking at the current situation, a Cyber Force seems more useful to national defense than a Space Force. (“more useful” does not rise to the level of “should be created”)

No assets in space? Looks up at billions of dollars in satellites and scratches head.

[Samm]

@WorldWatcher

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OK, I know I’m a squid…

But why do you want woodland camouflage pattern on the utility uniform. Lots of trees and dirt in space is there?
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.WW, PHS

Well, its not like any of these guys will ever leave Earth and go up in space.

[Samm]

@H_Arendt

@Smyrna

@H_Arendt

Star Trek had such a strongly liberal bias!

The length of their dresses is conservative. They could’ve been a lot shorter.

Gene Roddenberry wrote at the time (and why I still remember this I don’t know!) that the sexiness of an outfit is not how much it reveals but how much it might reveal1

Amen to that.

One of my favorite lines (ad libbed I heard) from that series was when 7 of 9 was brought to the android doctor wearing that uniform and the doctor said “Your uniform is very informative.”

[Samm]

@WuWei

@Oryx

@WuWei

I couldn’t disagree more.

Why??

It’s stupid. You don’t need a whole separate branch for this.

Many said, that the Army was doing just fine without an Air Force too.

[Samm]

@WuWei

@Oryx

@WuWei

Yes, two. I already told you.

You did?

@WuWei

No need to expand it now. Maybe not in the future. To do what? Change the batteries?

I think that’s a huge mistake. We’re already behind China in space and losing ground fast.

Yes, Army Air Corps and the Navy. We won a world war without an “Air Force”.

Fighting the last war is how a lot of countries lose wars.

[Oryx]

@Samm

Many said, that the Army was doing just fine without an Air Force too.

I think the US Space Force will be the Trump administration’s best and longest-lasting legacy. I’m glad he ignored the shortsighted ridicule and did it.

[Adam]

@Oryx

@Samm

Many said, that the Army was doing just fine without an Air Force too.

I think the US Space Force will be the Trump administration’s best and longest-lasting legacy. I’m glad he ignored the shortsighted ridicule and did it.

Personally I see it as additional bureaucracy, but time will tell.

[STODR]

If you look at it as an additional government agency then yes. In the military it reduces the bureaucracy quite a bit. Now they have one chain of command. Before individuals depending on the branch of service they were in had a different chain of command. Also getting the Army, Navy and Air Force to agree on what the priorities to spend that money was very difficult.

[WildRose]

Not to mention a whole lot of waste and overlap.

With each service being responsible for different parts of space defense you’re adding many billions to the DOD budget due to overlap not to mention all of the logistical nightmares involved in coordinating efforts between the services and the inter service friction that will always exist.

[Call_me_Ishmael]

@zantax

@merickson

There is a long history of fiction about fighting in space.
But the current reality is that there aren’t any assets in space (no drugs made in 0-g factories, yet. No diamond mines on the moon.) We (the planet earth) gets nothing from space that is (as yet) worth fighting over.

There are intermediate assets (like communication satellites) in space, that one might destroy or defend. Spy satellites would fall into this or the next category.

There is the possibility of direct military threats (like orbiting launch platforms) that the US might want to create (or defend against the enemy’s).

But AFAIK, there isn’t enough need at this point for a whole new branch needed to address the military implications of space. Standing study groups yes, but a whole new slew of arm patches, no.

We waste enough money on preparing for likely military needs on the surface of the Earth. This Space Force seems mostly like a way to suck even more money into “preparing against the possibility” of even less likely scenarios that we already waste money on.

Looking at the current situation, a Cyber Force seems more useful to national defense than a Space Force. (“more useful” does not rise to the level of “should be created”)

No assets in space? Looks up at billions of dollars in satellites and scratches head.

We have learned from History. The air was once just used for reconnaissance. But reconnaissance is a capability that your adversary wants to deny you. So he sends up airplanes to take out your reconnaissance. And then you send up defensive planes. The result is a contest for air superiority.

Now add the Billy Mitchells of the military who can see new capabilities in what aircraft can do. Add some time and you will get the USAF.

Trump is brilliant for seeing the need. Most people don’t know the war that goes on in space already. Its happening much like it happened for the Air Force.

[Call_me_Ishmael]

I will add that the space environment is unlike the air, sea, or ground. The tactics are completely different, the hazards different, the technology and weapons are different. The careers of the men and women need to be different as well and that by itself is sufficient reason for a separate service.

[Oryx]

Biden boldly going where Trump went before. Two rivals, united in space.

Biden boosts Space Force, a Trump legacy, despite fiscal warning signs

[Cratic3947]

The OP Never heard of protecting satellites, I guess.

[zantax]

What kind of moron doesn’t understand the strategic value of space?

[Supreme_War_Pig]

@zantax

What kind of moron doesn’t understand the strategic value of space?

Agreed.

[Oryx]

@Cratic3947

The OP Never heard of protecting satellites, I guess.

@Supreme_War_Pig

@zantax

What kind of moron doesn’t understand the strategic value of space?

Agreed.

I think most of the original Space Force criticism was based on Trump hate and automatic opposition to anything he supported. Hopefully more Democrats will get on board now that Biden has given it his official seal of approval.

[WorldWatcher]

They should have just turned space over to the Navy instead of giving it to the Air Force.

We’d have had Helicarriers by now without the need for Nick Fury.

WW

[Rurudyne]

Nope.

Get the people who designed uniforms for Macross to design them.

Those giant tall collars were spiffy.

[Jezcoe]

@Rurudyne

Nope.

Get the people who designed uniforms for Macross to design them.

Those giant tall collars were spiffy.

Throw in the bell bottoms from Star Blazers and I am in.