Tucker Carlson misses the point: our socialist/communist crowd promotes democracy!

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Let me say upfront that In general, Tucker Carlson does shed a shining light on the notoriously evil nature and desires of those who have seized control over the Democrat Party Leadership, i.e., Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York, Ilhan Omar of Minnesota, Ayanna Pressley of Massachusetts and Rashida Tlaib of Michigan, AKA :“The Squad”.

Having pointed the above out, Mr. Carlson is absolutely in error when he asserts democracy is under attack in the United States.
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Contrary to what Mr. Carlson says, the truth is, those who have seized control over the Democrat Party Leadership are promoting and demanding “democracy”. They are demanding a system of government in which a majority rule, and especially at election time which Mr. Carlson mentions in the above video. Are they not looking to end the Electoral College in favor of “democracy” ___ majority rule? Have they not embraced a plan to overhaul the Supreme Court, and add 10 more members?

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Democracy is a form of government which predictably results in nothing less than an unbridled mob rule system susceptible to the wants and passions of a political majority imposing its will upon those who may be outvoted, and would, if allowed to raise its ugly head in the United States, would end in the subjugation of unalienable rights, and especially the loss of rights associated with property ownership.

Democracy, or majority rule vote, as the Founding Fathers well knew, whether that majority rule is practiced by the people directly, or by elected representatives, or refereed by a majority rule Supreme Court vote, if not restrained by specific limitations and grants of power, and particular guarantees in which the unalienable rights of mankind are put beyond the reach of political majorities, are most assuredly to result in nothing less than an unbridled mob rule system. And that is why our founders guaranteed us a “Republican Form of Government” [see Article 4, Section 4, of our Constitution], controlled and limited by a written Constitution ___ hence, a constitutionally limited, Republican Form of Government.

Tucker Carlson ought to study FEDERALIST NO. 10 and then decide if he really embraces “democracy” carried out by “The Squad’, which is all in favor of “democracy”.

JWK

“democracy will envy all, contend with all, endeavor to pull down all; and when by chance it happens to get the upper hand for a short time, it will be revengeful, bloody, and cruel…” John Adams, a principle force in the American Revolutionary period

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From Federalist #10:

From this view of the subject it may be concluded that a pure democracy, by which I mean a society consisting of a small number of citizens, who assemble and administer the government in person, can admit of no cure for the mischiefs of faction.

That’s doesn’t sound anything like democracy in the US. Because it isn’t; the US isn’t a pure democracy.

A republic, by which I mean a government in which the scheme of representation takes place, opens a different prospect, and promises the cure for which we are seeking

That’s sounds exactly like our system of representative democracy.

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What that “sounds” like is a “Republican Form of Government”, as guaranteed under Article 4, Section 4.

“Democracy” is nowhere to be found in our federal Constitution.

JWK

: " Democracy never lasts long” . . . “It soon wastes, exhausts and murders itself.”. . . “There was never a democracy that ‘did not commit suicide.’” ___ Samuel Adams, a signer of the Declaration of Independence

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A Republic is a form of Democracy.

I know it doesn’t make a difference to those who wish to be pedantic.

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Democracy is found everywhere in the Constitutions. For example, the Presidential candidate receiving the majority of electoral votes wins the election. (Where people in the states vote for the President and the candidate with the majority of votes receives the electoral votes.) Congress can pass laws with a majority vote. Supreme Cases are decided by a majority vote. All of these are principals of democracy.

The US is a representative democracy and it’s not wrong to refer to it as a democracy.

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:roll_eyes:

ARTICLE 4

Section 4.

The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government,

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Why do you recoil from using “Republican Form of Government”?

Aside from that, is it not a fact the “Squad” is promoting “democracy” when they advocate ending the Electoral College?

JWK

When it comes to healthcare, our democrat candidates running for office have no moral compass whatsoever. They refuse to make the distinction between CHARITABLE GIVING and tax tyranny to support the needy.

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When Drawing a Venn Diagram of types of Government, what would be the relationship between “Democracy” and “Republic”?

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Is it not a fact the “Squad” is promoting “democracy” when they advocate ending the Electoral College?

JWK

Elizabeth Warren wants elderly American citizens, who paid into Medicare all their lives, to surrender their healthcare to the millions of foreigners who have invaded America’s borders.

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Wow another word Trump supporters have no idea what it means. Can we please force people to study Social Studies in HS more than seems people in Trump land did. Or are most just so old that they went to a 1 room school house like I see On Little House on Prairie.

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It is their right as Elected Representatives to advocate for what their constituents want.

Now whether it is an Amendment that eliminates the Electoral College or an agreement between states to send the electors of the winner of the popular vote, none of those are illegal.

I personally would prefer an elimination of the "winner take all " rule of electors and have them divided by percentage of the vote… but that would also likely cause a situation where no candidate reaches the necessary thresh hold.

But anyway… none of that has anything to do with trying to make a distinction that a Republic isn’t a subset of “Democracy”

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The question was: Is it not a fact the “Squad” is promoting “democracy” when they advocate ending the Electoral College?

JWK

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It is a really strange nit to be picking.

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Huh? Your wording is a bit incoherent. Will you please rephrase the message you are attempting to convey?

By the way, I believe you may have been thinking of “Civics” when you made your insulting comment about those who are “old”.

I get the distinct impression from your post that you are a victim of a government school education.

JWK

As nightfall does not come at once, neither does oppression. In both instances there is a twilight where everything remains seemingly unchanged. And it is in such twilight that we all must be aware of change in the air - however slight - lest we become unwitting victims of darkness.___ Supreme Court Justice William Douglas

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I don’t recoil from using “Republican” form of government. The US is a republic. But it’s also a democracy. The argument that the US is a republic, therefore it can’t be a democracy, doesn’t make any sense.

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And the “Squad” is in fact demanding and promoting “democracy”. Are they not promoting an end to the Electoral College to enhance “democracy”? Are they not also promoting to increase the number of Supreme Court Justices by ten, which is intended to allow the Supreme Court to reflect the feelings of the community as opposed to the rule of law?

JWK

The right to keep and bear is specifically intended to maintain an armed citizenry capable to defend itself against a despotic government.

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The US public school system should be tried and hung.

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Home school for everyone?

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No, hang it and start over. I don’t blame the teachers much, they are victims too.

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We need to keep the electoral college.

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Our president was duly elected and there has been a near 3 year long effort to undo that election by the dem’s.

Tucker is correct.