Trump trial thread

That’s not the standard for prosecution in these crimes. The standard is whether they broke the law.

It’s just like if a cop caught someone in the act of trying to steal a car. If the thief is arrested in time before any damage to the vehicle is done, the guy can still be convicted for the ACT of committing the crime. There is just the added benefit that he was apprehended before any financial loss took place.

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A twice impeached convicted felonazi got elected over the best thst democrats had to offer…

Yeah, Id be pissed too.

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The law required that the misrepresentation had to be made to cover up another crime. The jury was given the option of one of three crimes, but did not agree on which crime was covered up.
It was not a unanimous verdict, as required.
One of those crimes was that the misrepresentation of the NDS was made to cover up the misrepresentation of the NDS which was a misdemeanor. That is circular and nuts.
The main point,is that everyone who voted for him knew the details and knew the jury verdict and correctly determined this was just biased, meaningless lawfare for political purposes. The proof is in the vote.

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The jury had to agree unanimously that the crime occurred and they did. They were not required to agree on the motive for the crime.

Yes it was. You are confusing commission of the crime with motive.

Let’s say someone murders their wife (the crime). Evidence is presented at trial that:

  • The wife was having an affair with the pool lady.
  • The Husband checked that the wifes life insurance policy was paid up to day.

Some jurors belived the murder was due to the affair, some may have believed that the murder was for the money. But ALL agreed that the husband murdered his wife.

It nuts because you are trying to describe something that didn’t occur.

#1 NO one was charged for having an NDA.

#2 Cohen was charged and convicted with campaign Fraud not for arranging the NDA.

#3 Trump was charged with business fraud (a felony) for laundering money through his business to hide/aid in Cohen’s crime.
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If you are going to discuss “the law”, please strive to accurately discuss both (a) “the law” and (b) the events with how the law was actually applied.

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Read the case. Trump was charged for misrepresenting a payment for a NDS as a legal expense. If you don’t understand that, there is no point reading the rest.
And the hiding of the supposed other crime was an element of the case. If nothing else, the Supreme Court will review this.
In any case, voters have decided for certain that nothing was done here that was blameworthy enough to prevent someone from serving as President,
That is the overriding issue.

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Hey, whatever you have to tell yourself. I live in a bright red area (and was a republican myself before the felon came along). I’ve heard all this twisting stuff into pretzels before. I understand folks have to justify their votes somehow.

I can honestly say I’ve never voted once for the felon, and my conscience is clear. What happens from here is on those who voted for the felon. That’s the way it works when you have a government that is chosen by election. Elections have consequences.

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You cannot any longer say that you have not ever voted for a party that has, for the first time in our history, misused the judicial system for political purposes. This puts us on the level of Russia or Venezuela. Or did until November 5.

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That’s just it - I no longer vote for parties. What the GOP has done since 2016 proved to me that political parties are as dangerous as George Washington told us they were. I vote for individuals.

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Easily win on appeal.

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Nope.

Woke libs don’t care though.

Don’t care that the whole thing was a lawfare joke either.

A dead (expired) misdemeanor bumped up to a felony to try and get Trump out of the race.

A joke of a trial that will be easily overturned.

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The state through lost taxes is one.

No, Trump was charged with felonoius business fraud for laundering payments to Cohen to hide/aid in conceal his (Cohen’s) illegal activities by NOT paying for the NDA (Cohen paid) it and having Cohen submit fraudulant “invoices” for a “retainer” that didn’t exist for “services” that werent performed.

If you don’t understand that, there is no point reading the rest.

The other element wasn’t hidden, there was testimony about movtive at trial.

Nope the voters decided they don’t mide a convicted felon being elected to office.

I do.

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I cannot any longer say that the United States has never elected a convicted felon as President.

So I guess we’re even.

But hey!!! Good news, another first for Trump.

WW

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Only until it gets overturned on appeal.

The sentence made sure of that as it proved without a doubt that this was merely another case of lawfare.

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Stick with it!

Atta boy! Such a good little subject!

Oh, don’t worry. I’ll be rubbing it into the faces of the cultists for years.

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That’s it. Hone in on the message that didn’t win last time.

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You did vote for a senile old criminal pervert though who was too senile to be tried. And would have voted for him again.

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