That’s it and they still expect us to believe them.
I always find it funny that the left thinks people on the right are stupid. This thread is more of that same conservative bashing. If only people on the right would listen to leftist tell what is really going on they would be so much better off. The leftist news tells it like it is and they are never wrong. These conservatives live in a bubble and if only we could make them listen to what we want them to listen to they would understand just how stupid they are.
The leftist news has always bashed conservatives. They went after Regan like rabid dogs. They went after both Bush’s like rabid dogs. Now they are going after Trump like a pack of rabid dogs And they cant stand it that the conservatives have an avenue to hear a different spin on the things. They all believe that conservative don’t listen to many source for their news and they can’t choose for themselves what they believe in the truth.
And than we have the straddle the fence people who call themselves conservative who want a tent so small that the republican party becomes obsolete. These people are the Bertha I’m better than you part of the party.
Regan once said something to effect of is it a third party that we need or is it a new revitalized second party, raising a banner of no pale pastels, but bold colors that make it clear where we stand.
I think alot conservatives in the country have finally taken his advise and believe that it is alright to speak their minds.
Your “explanation” backfired. If you just suspect, you think you know but don’t really.
Dispute the figures if you can.
He might have appointed pro-life judges, but it’s impossible to know how he or anyone else acts in their personal life in regards to abortion. Given how Trump has behaved in his three marriages, it’s hard to give him the benefit of the doubt that he wouldn’t do what’s most convenient. And striking down Roe v Wade won’t have any effect on people like him.
I always find it funny that the left thinks people on the right are stupid. This thread is more of that same conservative bashing. If only people on the right would listen to leftist tell what is really going on they would be so much better off. The leftist news tells it like it is and they are never wrong. These conservatives live in a bubble and if only we could make them listen to what we want them to listen to they would understand just how stupid they are.
The leftist news has always bashed conservatives. They went after Regan like rabid dogs. They went after both Bush’s like rabid dogs. Now they are going after Trump like a pack of rabid dogs And they cant stand it that the conservatives have an avenue to hear a different spin on the things. They all believe that conservative don’t listen to many source for their news and they can’t choose for themselves what they believe in the truth.
And than we have the straddle the fence people who call themselves conservative who want a tent so small that the republican party becomes obsolete. These people are the Bertha I’m better than you part of the party.
Regan once said something to effect of is it a third party that we need or is it a new revitalized second party, raising a banner of no pale pastels, but bold colors that make it clear where we stand.
I think alot conservatives in the country have finally taken his advise and believe that it is alright to speak their minds.
They always accuse conservatives of being what they themselves are guilty of. Such as the staying in a bubble. That’s a big time leftist trait.
And putting the right kinds of judges on the bench and their influence will outlive his presidency by many decades.
thinkingman: Kelby: thinkingman: Kelby: thinkingman: Patrick: thinkingman:you took that as serious?
He knows Trump was joking. He’s just too dishonest to help himself.
it’s astonishing that anyone is so politically desperate that they consider this as serious
same applies for trump flippantly asking russia to find hillary’s subpoenaed emails
I have doubts he was joking about either statement, but especially the latter.
Never underestimate the hubris of the malignant narcissist.
you call him “malignant” yet want others to consider your unlikely point of view
I’m not naive enough I can change the mind of someone like you.
this isnt about me though surely you realize that by now
Oh, who are you speaking for?
no one
Kelby: Patrick: Kelby:Ye shall know them by their fruits…”
Trump is best friend Israel ever had. Trump is ok with God.
Trump violates virtually every Christian ideal every single day.
Jesus would have found him with the money changers.
Trump is at least pro life whereas the “anointed” one Obama was an abortion enabler(Sotomeyer…Kagan).
Really doesn’t get any worse than that.
Over and out.
Say, how about you don’t get an abortion if you don’t believe in it and I won’t either?
Agreed?
He might have appointed pro-life judges, but it’s impossible to know how he or anyone else acts in their personal life in regards to abortion. Given how Trump has behaved in his three marriages, it’s hard to give him the benefit of the doubt that he wouldn’t do what’s most convenient. And striking down Roe v Wade won’t have any effect on people like him.
The act of appointing pro life judges cannot be dismissed. Over 60 million unborn babies have been slaughtered since Roe was made legal.
That more than dwarfs his personal shortcomings.
thinkingman: Bodecea: thinkingman: Kelby: thinkingman: Kelby:I’m know this has been covered in piecemeal fashion on this forum for the last few years to be sure, but don’t remember a specific thread regarding this phenomenon. If so, my bad.
But an interaction with a co-worker today brought this back to mind, and also reminded me of other people I know who are just like him.
This is a man whom I like as well as anyone I work with (out of hundreds of people). He is kind, courteous, a very good worker, conservative, and religious. We share the same religious faith and attended the same church for a while.
Today we had some time to chat about our out of work lifestyles. The talk went to the media, and we talked mostly about the TV shows we liked to watch. He steered the discussion around to politics, saying he watched a fair amount of political programming.
Now, I am always careful about sharing any political views with acqaintances and co-workers, since I am not interested in creating any conflict unnecessarily with these people. So I simply listened.
He began by telling me that virtually all news was biased, and most of it was “fake news”. He made it clear that he watched only certain cable programs (Fox) and avoided any network news. He also told me he no longer reads the newspaper, as he no longer trusts the Associated Press. The man is convinced the mainstream media, all of it, is biased against the current Republican administration.
He’s not the only one I know like that. My BIL, who has been getting the daily paper for decades, no longer takes it because of the material in it.
These folks have willfully shut themselves off from virtually any information that conflicts with their point of view and existing biases, mainly about the president.
In sum, I guess I shouldn’t be so surprised that some many on the right continue in their slavish support for Trump, et al, since they don’t allow themselves a peek outside the bubble.
Just my opinion/observation.
people realize what truth is and not
when they avoid what is manifestly not truth is not “shutting themselves off from information”
it is avoiding ■■■■■■■■
That’s certainly one way to look at it. But here’s the thing, I don’t do that. I’ve spent long hours listening to right wing radio, including the musings of our Gracious Host. I’ve read right-wing blogs and watched segments on Fox, I especially enjoyed watching Papa Bear O’Reilly.
I come away from these experiencing with an affirmed belief in what I believe, based on “information” from both sides, particularly with regard to Donald Trump.
Not to mention, listening to the words that come directly from Trump’s mouth tend to settle the case for me.
i highly doubt that esp the bill oreilly part lol
So…you know what that poster is thinking and believing…how long have you known him personally in order to have such an insight?
i do not know. but i suspect
i dont know him personally at all. dont need to to suspect
see how stupid your post looks now, even to you?
Your “explanation” backfired. If you just suspect, you think you know but don’t really.
i never said otherwise
No, and the positive stories either go unreported, under reported, or misrepresented in the vast majority of cases.
Ex-Pat:He might have appointed pro-life judges, but it’s impossible to know how he or anyone else acts in their personal life in regards to abortion. Given how Trump has behaved in his three marriages, it’s hard to give him the benefit of the doubt that he wouldn’t do what’s most convenient. And striking down Roe v Wade won’t have any effect on people like him.
The act of appointing pro life judges cannot be dismissed. Over 60 million unborn babies have been slaughtered since Roe was made legal.
That more than dwarfs his personal shortcomings.
And so what has changed, exactly?
More and more restrictive abortion laws over the last three decades.
gooddad409: Kelby: Patrick: Kelby:Ye shall know them by their fruits…”
Trump is best friend Israel ever had. Trump is ok with God.
Trump violates virtually every Christian ideal every single day.
Jesus would have found him with the money changers.
Trump is at least pro life whereas the “anointed” one Obama was an abortion enabler(Sotomeyer…Kagan).
Really doesn’t get any worse than that.
Over and out.
Say, how about you don’t get an abortion if you don’t believe in it and I won’t either?
Agreed?
Nope. Not unless you get the whole country to agree to it.
There’s really no difference between abortion and regular murder. Would you apply the same standard to that?
Probably not.
And millions will continue to be slaughtered of Roe is overturned.
Kelby: gooddad409: Kelby: Patrick: Kelby:Ye shall know them by their fruits…”
Trump is best friend Israel ever had. Trump is ok with God.
Trump violates virtually every Christian ideal every single day.
Jesus would have found him with the money changers.
Trump is at least pro life whereas the “anointed” one Obama was an abortion enabler(Sotomeyer…Kagan).
Really doesn’t get any worse than that.
Over and out.
Say, how about you don’t get an abortion if you don’t believe in it and I won’t either?
Agreed?
Nope. Not unless you get the whole country to agree to it.
There’s really no difference between abortion and regular murder. Would you apply the same standard to that?
Probably not.
I would never abort one of my developing children. I personally think it’s wrong.
My personal beliefs are not shared by everyone else, to my surprise. The law allows for people that believe differently to choose that option for them.
Democracy, folks.
There are probably multiple women close to you who have had abortions without your knowledge. Do you think they’re murderers?
There are probably multiple women close to you who have had abortions without your knowledge. Do you think they’re murderers?
There are.
No.
It is not for me to judge.
But it’s perfectly fine for some of you to judge conservatives and call them stupid because they believe different than you?