Trump: "I know a lot about wind" (3-28-2019)

[Bodecea]

@Blackwolf

@Cratic3947

Jim Jones was a bay area democrat…

Non-sequiturs are cool

And not illegal either.

[Cratic3947]

@wayoutwest

@Cratic3947

Michael Shellenberger

You don’t know much about Shellenberger, do you? Because if you did, you’d realize his positions stand in stark contrast to your own. His argument against renewables is that they are by and large only greenwash for the O&G industry… and in large part, I agree with that. But he certainly believes in AGW and his strong support for nuclear is precisely because he wants to curb O&G carbon emissions to combat the effects of AGW.

So, you still stand by what he says, cause that’s gonna create a whole lot of other issues for your positions if so…

I agree with his assessment of wind and solar. I don’t think this minor warming trend is man caused. I also agree we should go nuke. Because it will make us all so much richer.

I’m glad you didn’t try to discredit him… Usually the left shoots the messenger…

[JayJay]

How is it going to make us richer?

We currently produce only 7% of the uranium we consume in nuke plants. Here’s where the other 93% comes from:

Canada–35%
Australia–20%
Russia–18%
Kazakhstan–12%
Uzbekistan–5%
Hungary, Malawi, Namibia, Niger, South Africa, Ukraine, and unknown–10%

https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/index.php?page=nuclear_where

(But…but…URANIUM ONE in 3…2…1…)

[peek-a-boo]

In a common frame of reference, Trump would be neither a buffoon nor would he be a genius.

There is an overabundance of material out there regarding Trump going back years. An objective person would scour this material before making any judgements. The material could then be discussed objectively from that common frame of reference.

That is where I typically try to steer Trump related conversations, with little success.

[JayJay]

@peek-a-boo

In a common frame of reference, Trump would be neither a buffoon nor would he be a genius.

There is an overabundance of material out there regarding Trump going back years. An objective person would scour this material before making any judgements. The material could then be discussed objectively from that common frame of reference.

That is where I typically try to steer Trump related conversations, with little success.

Under what common frame of reference should we discuss the falsehoods Trump spouted off about wind power?

Come on- simple question, Peek…let’s put this into practice right now with this specific example from the thread.

[peek-a-boo]

As I stated, you are unable to budge from your Trump is a buffoon frame of reference.

[biggestal99]

@peek-a-boo

There is an overabundance of material out there regarding Trump going back years

True.

1. Trump U.–scam
2. New Jersey casinos–badly run businesses
3. Trump foundation–self enriching charity

need I go on…

Allan

[peek-a-boo]

Another one who simply won’t budge from their Trump hating frame of reference.

You are simply making my case.

[JayJay]

@peek-a-boo

As I stated, you are unable to budge from your Trump is a buffoon frame of reference.

Where in the comment did I state that Trump was a buffoon?

I stated that he told falsehoods about wind power.

Why would he do this?

Or if you believe they aren’t falsehoods, explain yourself there and then we can move on.

[Bodecea]

@wayoutwest

Yeah, fully realize all that. It’s just fun to confront these guys with empirical facts to see how much they contort to explain it away…

Personally, I have too much respect for myself to lend my support to someone that constantly lies to me, but that’s not the only difference between Anti-Trumpers and Trump Supporters. lol

I agree…a total lack of self respect by CRCs and the 5th Ave Syndrome sufferers. I pity them.

[Bodecea]

@wayoutwest

I know, commenting on the stupid things he says… my God, heads exploding everywhere!

You should really get a new schtick… that, or offer something substantive.

Just pity comes to mind.

[biggestal99]

@peek-a-boo

Another one who simply won’t budge from their Trump hating frame of reference.

You are simply making my case.

so stating facts. It is a fact that Trump U was a scam. It is a fact that Trump was forced to declare bankruptcy on his casino investments.

It is a fact that the Trump foundation used some of its funds to enrich our president.

want some more

central park 5–self proclaimed public avenger gets it terribly wrong
New Jersey Generals–another brilliant idea. Lets compete with the NFL in the fall.

Allan

[Bodecea]

@peek-a-boo

The thread is a Trump bashing thread. There is nothing substantive about it.

Let us all note that a thread that is titled with something that donnie said…is officially a donnie bashing thread. How dare we! How DARE we!!!

[Bodecea]

@peek-a-boo

You still aren’t getting it and I don’t think you ever will.

Soooooooooooo……………….

You Trump haters keep on bashing him right on through the 2020 elections. We will have the last laugh following his reelection.

So…the fix is in?

[Plasmaball]

Sure…i mean you should see all the land they took up for this fracking joint near me. Lots of trees got cut down for their little operation.all fenced in…real eye sore…

Weak argument snow…real weak

[biggestal99]

You still aren’t getting it and I don’t think you ever will.

Soooooooooooo……………….

You Trump haters keep on bashing him right on through the 2020 elections. We will have the last laugh following his reelection.

Is that an official prediction from you? so that we can all make folly of your predictions on election night 2020. when Callie delivers its EC votes to the Democratic Party Candidate and that person becomes the next President. yikes. It will make Nancy taking back the house pale in comparison.

Allan

[reflechissez]

@peek-a-boo

In a common frame of reference, Trump would be neither a buffoon nor would he be a genius.

There is an overabundance of material out there regarding Trump going back years. An objective person would scour this material before making any judgements. The material could then be discussed objectively from that common frame of reference.

That is where I typically try to steer Trump related conversations, with little success.

That made no sense whatsoever.

[Bodecea]

@Konssurvative1

So his speeches are full of hyperbolic lies and untruths? For what reason?

Why does he have this need to be fast and loose with the facts?

And, do you not see why reasonable people have a problem with this. You support a lying hyperbolic president who plays loose with the facts?

Good to know where you stand…directly with a man who lies, stretches the truth and plays loose with the facts…and has spentbtwo years yelling " fake news fake news".

A person who has no problem with the CinC being hyperbolic, being a liar, being a cheater, being ignorant, being an adulterer…obviously has something in common with them.

[Kelby]

@peek-a-boo

You might want to bone up on framing a discussion.

For instance.

The abortion battle.

DEMs frame this discussion as the right of a woman to choose. Conservatives frame this discussion as that of preventing the murder of an unborn child.

Which frame represents reality?

How about current law? The one that says that abortion is generally the woman’s right to choose and is not murder?

[mobulis]

@peek-a-boo

You might want to bone up on framing a discussion.

For instance.

The abortion battle.

DEMs frame this discussion as the right of a woman to choose. Conservatives frame this discussion as that of preventing the murder of an unborn child.

Which frame represents reality?

Since its not murder the Dem’s obviously.