No. “Conservative” doesn’t mean there what it means here and you are using “federalists” wrong.
Much like here, the central governmentists defeated the leave me alones.
The tie in to Panama is that it is too far from Bogota to oppre… rule effectively.
6th. And growing.
Growing up in Texas, there were always more Hispanics in my schools than white people.
But Trump said something, and that’s all that matters to the near-sexually obsessed. 
You don’t know Him.
Makes sense. I wonder why portions of the US didn’t end up like that. It’s not like Washington had total physical control of the Southwest at the turn of the 20th century. They probably could have done the same thing the Panamanians did in regards to Bogota.
That seems like a really cool city to visit. I’ve always wanted to take a trip to Bogota.
Yeah they will probably be the largest single heritage group in the country at some point in the future. Already are in some of the border states.
Didn’t they?
Not national group, heritage group.
They are citizens. Americans.
Well no one got an outside power to come in and separate them from the rest of the country legally.
The Southwest really was mostly independent in regards to Washington in the early 20th century though. I wonder if it was technology that sort of brought it more into the fold at the time. I’ve always loved that time period, when the old West was transitioning to the more modern west.
Yeah I should have worded that differently. It sounds disrespectful when I reread it.
Forgetting the civil war?
Parts of it still try.
I think the big difference is mostly dependency. Bogota doesn’t have the money to make the leave me alones dependent like Washington does.
Well, the south tried. And failed.
But wouldn’t that have more in common to the 1,000 Days War in Colombia over the Panamanian Incident though? If say some years later the south got a coalition of the UK, France, and Imperial Germany to finance independence and somehow the US didn’t try to go to war with all three of them over it.
That seems to be common down there. Central authorities have only tenuous control of the rural areas far from the capitals of each state. And every once in a while that erupts into justified violence when the government tries to impose too much.
I admire that about Latin America. Be nice if the US was still like that.
Chile, a significant military force, supported Bogota on Panama.
I think the difference is the Colombians kind of wanted to cut Panama loose, give up territory to gain control.
Which is what the Vietnamese should have done in 1973.
Also, I think the Feds owning so much land in the west is for a reason they don’t like to talk about. It gives them so much more control, since they have a lot of the best ranching territory and control important water springs where the important rivers form.
They’re terrified of the West just packing up and leaving and crushing Manifest Destiny into the dirt.
Basically they saw what happened with the South and don’t want that to ever happen again.
It’s common everywhere. More so now with communications technology.
So far, the “rule of law”, nationalism, etc has mostly kept a lid on the violence here. Those and the standard of living. The immiseration here doesn’t reach those levels.
It will eventually.
Good point. The civil war and reconstruction changed the American pol psyche and we’re still seeing the effects today.
They used the schools.
Makes you wonder if the entire world is due for a reset at some point in the future, with central authorities losing alot of their legitimacy and control.
Even China, a very authoritarian society controlled from Beijing, is having that central issue today as the “less important” parts of China are taking on more and more importance in their direct lives.
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