no. not at this point
illegal? gotta go
out of respect for the legals who went through the processes and wait to get here
not very culty btw huh? meh, what do you care
no. not at this point
illegal? gotta go
out of respect for the legals who went through the processes and wait to get here
not very culty btw huh? meh, what do you care
Itâs amazing to me how quickly you all change your positions based on Trumpâs whims
Nothing has changed. If someone is caught in this country illegally, no matter how long they have been here, they can and should be deported.
With 20+ million illegals here in this country, it simply isnât possible to deport them all. Target the worst of the worst and then go from there.
Iâve never wavered.
But you are certainly welcome to show me otherwise.
Last week it was âdeport all! They are criminals!â
Today itâs âI agree that we should not deport ALL illegal immigrantsâ
You must have me confused with another forum member. But technically if they are here illegally, then they are criminals.
Now Today, do you agree with him not deporting from farms and hotels?
The policy change says a pause on raids, not deportations.
thinkingman:
SeaManatee:
The MAGA that want all illegal immigrants deported as quickly as possible perhaps.
i said âbadâ thing
and you forgot âto prisonsâ
1
I think if we start rounding up illegals and enforce
the send-them-to-prison laws already on the books,
millions and millions of others will leave the country on their own.2
I think if we start arresting the criminals who hire them
and enforce the send-them-to-prison laws already on the books,
millions of them will immediately comply with the law, fire their criminal workforce and many of them will increase wages to hire legal employees and stay in business.3
If that means I am MAGA, well, I guess I am MAGA.
(I hae alwaysavoided the title because I believe Donald Trump wants to spend too much money, artificially cut rates and do other liberal things.)
You left out âthe higher wages will lead to higher prices for food and increase inflation.â
Someone must have reminded Trump he owns hotels, restaurants, and vineyards.
Probably that little whiner Eric.
Deport the violent ones/gang members first and foremost (use the scary body armor and such), and anyone else who so much as receives a traffic violation (use the judicial process).
I like it.
You left out âthe higher wages will lead to higher prices for food and increase inflation.â
you hate inflation now?
PurpnGold:
Now Today, do you agree with him not deporting from farms and hotels?
The policy change says a pause on raids, not deportations.
good point!
nice to see some sanity in the narrative ruckus
peek-a-boo:
PurpnGold:
Donât MAGA want ALLL illegals deported or in prison?
I donât necessarily believe all of them need to be deported. That simply wouldnât be practical.
Itâs amazing to me how quickly you all change your positions based on Trumpâs whims
If you actually paid attention to the posts here you would have found over the last year or so many people who supported Trump wanted some exceptions. Some just wanted the flood released under Biden undone. Almost no one said stop all immigration. But go with your MSNBC stereotypes.
Nuances just complicate narratives.
Donât worry. There is still schools, daycares, doctorâs offices, immigration hearings, etc
Donât worry. There is still schools, daycares, doctorâs offices, immigration hearings, etc
are you justifying the illegality of those who are here illegally? based on their profession�
Supreme_War_Pig:
Donât worry. There is still schools, daycares, doctorâs offices, immigration hearings, etc
are you justifying the illegality of those who are here illegally? based on their profession�
Heâs just doing what Trump is doing⌠problem?
Gaius:
thinkingman:
SeaManatee:
The MAGA that want all illegal immigrants deported as quickly as possible perhaps.
i said âbadâ thing
and you forgot âto prisonsâ
1
I think if we start rounding up illegals and enforce
the send-them-to-prison laws already on the books,
millions and millions of others will leave the country on their own.2
I think if we start arresting the criminals who hire them
and enforce the send-them-to-prison laws already on the books,
millions of them will immediately comply with the law, fire their criminal workforce and many of them will increase wages to hire legal employees and stay in business.3
If that means I am MAGA, well, I guess I am MAGA.
(I hae alwaysavoided the title because I believe Donald Trump wants to spend too much money, artificially cut rates and do other liberal things.)You left out âthe higher wages will lead to higher prices for food and increase inflation.â
Right because when you buy a $1 carrot in the supermarket the bosses give 99-cents to the workers right?
FACT:
Wages a teeensy weesy itsy bitsy part of food costs.
We could deport so much labor that labor costs DOUBLE and youâd hardly notice it in what you pay for a dozen eggs.
You know this. I know this. Only difference is your side needs to hope peole are ignorant of the facts, bedasue facts reveal you are wrong and I am right.
Wages a teeensy weesy itsy bitsy part of food costs.
Hmmm
You sure about that?
How much do you think he gets paid (hourly wage) per bunch of radishes? About 5 cents? about 1 cent?
Radishes are, right now $1.03 in Walmart.
If we add 1-5 cents to the cost of a bunch of radisshes at Walmart how much will they cost?
At 5 cents that ~5% increase in price.
I donât know about the rest of ya, but Iâm hungry for some TACOs!
Gaius:
Radishes are, right now $1.03 in Walmart.
If we add 1-5 cents to the cost of a bunch of radisshes at Walmart how much will they cost?At 5 cents that ~5% increase in price.
Yup.
Thatâs hypothetical of course, but is hows how struggling low-income families will be benefit, a 100% increase in wages and only a 5% increase in prices.
Definitely the greatest thing that any president ever did for his nationâs working class. Greatest idea in 2,000 years . . . put him on mount Rushmore. Name a state after him.
Agreed?
Letâs continue.
A hotel room (or an airBnb) costs you $200 a night.
The chamber maid, an illegal, is deported and to replace her with a legal American worker, the hotel has to pay double what they are paying her.
How much the the price of your hotel room increase? Again, maybe 5%?