Trump admin preparing to take over private land in Texas for border wall

[gooddad409]

@Samm

@gooddad409

And? The government has been taking land for roads etc all of my 66 years.

Why is this different?

… and for buildings, parks, urban renewals, and economic development. But somehow to libs, this is different.

It is different because this Prez has a R by his name and even worse it is Trump.

Would be mighty fine if it was a D.

[Samm]

@Auto129

@DougBH

Eminent domain built our highway system. Now it can protect the country. Not a problem.
Are Democrats now going to tell us they oppose eminent domain?

I oppose it, until I’m given a reason to support it.
The wall isn’t a good enough reason.

The only appropriate response to that is: Tough ■■■■■

[Samm]

@Apocalypto

It’s nothing more than a vanity project for fat donald.

What a pathetic response.

[H_Arendt]

@DougBH

@H_Arendt

@DougBH

Eminent domain built our highway system. Now it can protect the country. Not a problem.
Are Democrats now going to tell us they oppose eminent domain?

No. We are going to shake our heads as conservatives surrender yet another principle to Donald Trump. And invest in companies developing artificial spines.

I think you have a misunderstanding of conservative principles. But have fun.

A belief in small government and a high value placed on private property should lead one to question Eminent Domain. Tell us why you think I misunderstand.

[WuWei]

@Auto129

@DougBH

Eminent domain built our highway system. Now it can protect the country. Not a problem.
Are Democrats now going to tell us they oppose eminent domain?

I oppose it, until I’m given a reason to support it.
The wall isn’t a good enough reason.

What would be?

I oppose it. Period.

[Apocalypto]

@Samm

@Apocalypto

It’s nothing more than a vanity project for fat donald.

What a pathetic response.

I was against this abuse of power by the obama admin, as I am against the current abuse of power by fat donald.

The Taking: How the federal government abused its power to seize property for...

[WuWei]

@DougBH

I think you have a misunderstanding of conservative principles. But have fun.

I don’t think he does.

[Jezcoe]

@Samm

@Jezcoe

@Apocalypto

Good ‘ole eminant domain, a long held bastion of conservative principles.

I bet if the wall was cutting through his golf course he wouldn’t build it.

Trump admin preparing to take over private land in Texas for border wall

Jared’s in charge.

“Jared Kushner is hosting a meeting with military and administration officials at the White House this Friday, where they are expected to discuss the US government taking over private land to build more sections of wall along the U.S.-Mexico border, said two officials”

Hey… we are in a national emergency, so the President gets to seize the land until the emergency is over.

Wrong. It is a permanent acquisition for a public works project.

They are using the “Declaration of Taking Act” which lubes the whole process during a National Emergency.

People are going to get screwed.

[Apocalypto]

Yep.

“According to two officials familiar with the process, however, government attorneys may file under the Declaration of Taking Act in federal court in Texas, which could expedite the process for the government purchase of private land along the border.

If the government files under that law, and its action survives expected legal challenges, the title would automatically transfer to the government. The government has to name the price it expects to pay, but actual negotiations with the landowners about the price don’t begin until after the land is taken.

Attorneys for the Department of Justice and Department of Defense have prepared letters of rights of entry, informing property owners that government officials will be entering their land to assess the property, test the soil and conduct land surveys, said two officials”

[toreyj01]

This is where the rubber meets the road. Over 90 percent of Texas land is privately held and I find it implausible that a bunch of Ranchers are going to be happy losing their property and their access to the Rio Grande for the wall. That river feeds a ton of farms and ranches along the border, losing it will be catastrophic to them.

[Jezcoe]

@toreyj01

This is where the rubber meets the road. Over 90 percent of Texas land is privately held and I find it implausible that a bunch of Ranchers are going to be happy losing their property and their access to the Rio Grande for the wall. That river feeds a ton of farms and ranches along the border, losing it will be catastrophic to them.

Remember that time when conservatives rallied around a rancher who was using public land and refused to pay for it and now conservatives are for taking private land for public use and refusing (probably) to pay a fair value for it?

Yeah… me too.

[markdido]

@Apocalypto

I’ve always opposed eminent domain.

Do you also oppose the confiscatory progressive tax system?

Basically the same principle. Taking property for the greater good.

[toreyj01]

@Jezcoe

@toreyj01

This is where the rubber meets the road. Over 90 percent of Texas land is privately held and I find it implausible that a bunch of Ranchers are going to be happy losing their property and their access to the Rio Grande for the wall. That river feeds a ton of farms and ranches along the border, losing it will be catastrophic to them.

Remember that time when conservatives rallied around a rancher who was using public land and refused to pay for it and now conservatives are for taking private land for public use and refusing (probably) to pay a fair value for it?

Yeah… me too.

Cliven Bundy, yes? And he didn’t even lose land, he was leeching off public lands without paying the appropriate fees. Texans are tough hombres, I cannot for the life of me see a way to convince them to lose their land and their access to the Rio Grande.

Plus, you cannot build a wall right on the border according to our treaties with Mexico, we have to build in a bit and for a portion of the border (due to geographic necessities) quite a bit it. Which means the wall is going to completely close off whole communities which are now going to wind up on the Mexican side of the border.

Very interested on how they respond to this land grab, especially with Jared at the head of it.

[Jezcoe]

I am glad that Jared has something to do now that he has solved Mideast peace.

[Oryx]

Maybe Trump really is a big-government Democrat after all.

[Samm]

Good for you. Maybe when you become President you can straighten everything out to your liking.

[Samm]

@Jezcoe

@Samm

@Jezcoe

@Apocalypto

Good ‘ole eminant domain, a long held bastion of conservative principles.

I bet if the wall was cutting through his golf course he wouldn’t build it.

Trump admin preparing to take over private land in Texas for border wall

Jared’s in charge.

“Jared Kushner is hosting a meeting with military and administration officials at the White House this Friday, where they are expected to discuss the US government taking over private land to build more sections of wall along the U.S.-Mexico border, said two officials”

Hey… we are in a national emergency, so the President gets to seize the land until the emergency is over.

Wrong. It is a permanent acquisition for a public works project.

They are using the “Declaration of Taking Act” which lubes the whole process during a National Emergency.

People are going to get screwed.

Eminent domain does not screw the property owners except in that it forces them to sell whether they want to or not. The process requires that the property owner be offered fair compensation and if they are unhappy with that, they can go to court to get more money. And as has been pointed out, this is no different than if the government was widening the Interstate.

[Samm]

@Apocalypto

Yep.

“According to two officials familiar with the process, however, government attorneys may file under the Declaration of Taking Act in federal court in Texas, which could expedite the process for the government purchase of private land along the border.

If the government files under that law, and its action survives expected legal challenges, the title would automatically transfer to the government. The government has to name the price it expects to pay, but actual negotiations with the landowners about the price don’t begin until after the land is taken.

Attorneys for the Department of Justice and Department of Defense have prepared letters of rights of entry, informing property owners that government officials will be entering their land to assess the property, test the soil and conduct land surveys, said two officials”

Exactly the same as in every other Eminent Domain transaction.

[Samm]

@toreyj01

Very interested on how they respond to this land grab, especially with Jared at the head of it.

Where were you when Jimmy Carter grabbed millions of acres in Alaska for no other reason than to keep it from ever become private property?

[mobulis]

@Samm

@gooddad409

And? The government has been taking land for roads etc all of my 66 years.

Why is this different?

… and for buildings, parks, urban renewals, and economic development. But somehow to libs, this is different.

According to cons govt destroys anything it touches, yet somehow this is different.