This would be libs ultimate utopia

Ouch.

No one knows how many political prisoner China has since they won’t allow UN to go in and inspect.

But don’t think for moment our intelligent agencies don’t know.

And BTW…welcome to Hannity forum.

If that would be “libs ultimate utopia” could you please give us a list of Bills Sponsored in Congress by Liberals wishing to establish any of those things right here in the good old USA?

Thanks in advance!

While I’ve never put any poster on ignore, the contention isn’t with anyone of opposition. It’s with people who make fallacious arguments and aren’t interested in honest debate, like yourself. You paint with broad brushes and don’t want to engage in good faith.

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Libs don’t tell you what they will do once in power. They just lie to get elected, then shove Obama care down your throat, etc…

I guess you would call me a lib based on most of my views, but this is as far from utopia as I could imagine.

Ask yourself when did all this government surveillance start. Post 9/11 and I’m not going to blame just republicans because democrats where right there with them on this at the time. Obama made it worse and I don’t see Trump doing anything about it either. Lets get rid of the Patriot act and secret courts and the rest.

That’s right…libs are upset because their brush isn’t as wide as mine.

No one wield a wider brush…no one.

But again thou we all know only libs can make fallacious arguments and get away with it. :wink:

Um…Obama campaigned on it in 2008.

No, you could get away with it too…except you suck at it.

:sunglasses:

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I’m with you on that. I was one of biggest critic but was ignored.

My work is art dude. Pure art. You just haven’t learn to appreciate it.

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Obama care is not universal health care…

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I was lurking back then and most cons were all on board.

Do you remember, “only someone with something to hide would be against it”?

I would say jersey is a liberal utopia.

Polluted China?

Yikes

Don’t think so.

Low wages.

Polluted.

That’s no utopia. Lib or otherwise.

Allan

Oh I appreciate it…like I appreciate movies that are so bad they become good.

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Dona is the community,s Ed Wood

Allan

Conan

Allan

600.000.000 snoop cameras in 2 years.

That’s 1984 like big brother.

That’s no utopia for anyone.

Allan

Ev’rybody betray me! I fed up wif this whirled!

Saudi Arabia.

J/K. No, 1950s America is the best model. I’m guessing?