This is perfect example of why many knelt during the National Anthem

I would rather 1,000 4 year-olds get away with Barbie dolls than one get a cap busted in their ass.

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I don’t think we’re all that far apart here. I think your issue is more on the timing of the headlines. I think you’re expecting the media to be omniscient on every story it runs from the very beginning. That’s not what happens. Stories get updated constantly. And that’s one thing in all my years in newspapers that they were strong on and was so important … updating stories. I guess what I’m saying is don’t judge every story you see as the last word. It very often isn’t.

And yea, I do support the media. I’m not ashamed of that. Not in the least. :slight_smile:

(And thanks for this. It’s not often that you and I have had a discussion like this. Hope we can do it again.)

It’s on the content of the headlines.

Juxtaposing the pulling of guns with a 4-year-old accidentally walking out with a doll. That’s spin. I’ve been completely clear and consistent on that.

Bingo. Thousands of blacks are shot down every year by other blacks. No problem. Let one or two bad cops treat somebody badly in that same year and all hell breaks lose. Time to take a knee. This is seriously stupid ■■■■■

you mean where everybody stops what they’re doing when the anthem plays and faces the flag at attention? maybe we should make it a federal law, punishable by jail time. that should satisfy the right-wing authoritarians

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Good thing Kaep was protesting abuse from cops and not the flag, then.

According to YOUR beliefs.

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

When all else fails, fall back on partisan claptrap.

I mean, you’re right it’s not about 1 random bad cop. It’s about A LOT of them. And nothing changing. And lack of accountability.

“The proper thing” … a far way from disrespect. I find this WAY more disrespectful: image

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No. That’s not what I mean. That’s the problem with libs. They assume to know what conservatives mean without even asking. There is no popular movement to do what you are saying. It sounds paranoid.

Irony.

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He took a knee for the flag. You can’t protest the flag then claim it has nothing to do with the flag. That is world’s stupidest defense.

I don’t. Even though she means well, her display is not appropriate. She is not making an attempt do disrespect. But she in clueless of flag code. I’m only offended at the fact that we don’t teach flag code. So most people are clueless. There is no doubt that she means well. She is not protesting.

No he didn’t. He took a knee for those slain wrongfully by cops. Like Tamir Rice. Daniel Shaver. Eric Garner.

He didn’t protest the flag. He protested when people were singing a song about the flag while looking at the flag.

I lead the National Anthem many Friday nights during football season, and I do it proudly. I stand every morning with my students and say the pledge. I don’t assume that someone who doesn’t participate in those events with me each time hates America, or the flag. No, the suggestion that those people are socialists who hate America and the flag is the world’s stupidest defense.

Neither are kneelers. If we’re going by intent, then you’ve just demolished any further arguments toward kneelers you could make.

Checkmate.

But it’s not. That’s what actually happened. There’s no spin there.

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You betcha. For example, I can remember all those dumb threads about “liberalism” created by people who weren’t liberals.

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Certainly no shortage of threads like that around these parts. For example:

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Thank you for calling attention to my thread and the wisdom of my comments… I certainly appreciate it. :slightly_smiling_face::+1:

I was calling attention to the irony of posting that thread followed by saying “They assume to know what conservatives mean without even asking.”

That was quite clear. The irony is rich.

That was to draw attention at a key ceremony to police brutality…hardly useful to take a knee during the game or in the locker room, is it? Peaceful protest is totally American.

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