This is a nightmare!

You missed this part: “change a rule under the USA Patriot Act antiterrorism law to cut off a portion of the funds sent to Mexico through money transfers, commonly known as remittances.”

Name one person that thought Mexico was going to write a check.

I listen.

So to the point you raise about Donald Trump the businessman and real estate developer, yes he did have to file bankruptcy for several endeavors. And he did so in accordance with existing bankruptcy law. Companies endure reorganization and bankruptcy all the time. Most creditors get paid, maybe not what they want but businesses stay open and people get to keep their jobs.

I read.
You typed he said “indirectly”.

And provided no evidence.

Words mean things.

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No, ‘more people’ will not want wall. The same people will reposition their wall polemics

Trump’s plan when he was running for president – 2015. If you didn’t catch it on his MAGA campaign online, he repeated them during his rallies.

Make Mexico Pay For The Wall

For many years, Mexico’s leaders have been taking advantage of the United States by using illegal immigration to export the crime and poverty in their own country (as well as in other Latin American countries). They have even published pamphlets on how to illegally immigrate to the United States. The costs for the United States have been extraordinary: U.S. taxpayers have been asked to pick up hundreds of billions in healthcare costs, housing costs, education costs, welfare costs, etc. Indeed, the annual cost of free tax credits alone paid to illegal immigrants quadrupled to $4.2 billion in 2011. The effects on jobseekers have also been disastrous, and black Americans have [been particularly harmed]

The impact in terms of crime has been tragic. In recent weeks, the headlines have been covered with cases of criminals who crossed our border illegally only to go on to commit horrific crimes against Americans. Most recently, an illegal immigrant from Mexico, with a long arrest record, is charged with breaking into a 64 year-old woman’s home, crushing her skull and eye sockets with a hammer, raping her, and murdering her. The Police Chief in Santa Maria says the “blood trail” leads straight to Washington.

In 2011, the Government Accountability Office found that there were a shocking 3 million arrests attached to the incarcerated alien population, including tens of thousands of violent beatings, rapes and murders.

Meanwhile, Mexico continues to make billions on not only our bad trade deals but also relies heavily on the billions of dollars in remittances sent from illegal immigrants in the United States back to Mexico ($22 billion in 2013 alone).

In short, the Mexican government has taken the United States to the cleaners. They are responsible for this problem, and they must help pay to clean it up.

The cost of building a permanent border wall pales mightily in comparison to what American taxpayers spend every single year on dealing with the fallout of illegal immigration on their communities, schools and unemployment offices.

Mexico must pay for the wall and, until they do, the United States will, among other things: impound all remittance payments derived from illegal wages; increase fees on all temporary visas issued to Mexican CEOs and diplomats (and if necessary cancel them); increase fees on all border crossing cards – of which we issue about 1 million to Mexican nationals each year (a major source of visa overstays); increase fees on all NAFTA worker visas from Mexico (another major source of overstays); and increase fees at ports of entry to the United States from Mexico [Tariffs and foreign aid cuts are also options]. We will not be taken advantage of anymore.

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:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::+1:t4:

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Ah, the Trump “not to be taken literally” defence.

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What happened to the behind posts? The attempted deflection did not work. Trump has been involved in multiple bankruptcies.

Donald Trump thought and said that Mexico would draw a cheque for the cost of the wall.

Like they all do.

“Defence” … nice play on words. :wink:

Take any politician literally at your own peril. In fact, given Trump’s lifetime propensity to use hyperbole, why would anyone take him literally as a politician? All I can say is if you did, you are one naïve dude.

You are right, your deflection did not work. Trying to shift the subject to bankruptcy from the border wall was a leap too far by any standard.

Hyperbole? Why the use of a euphemism rather than just say he lies?

You are sure sounding like someone who hates Trump to me. :wink:

That would be incorrect; I reserve that for Aussie Liberal Party politicians like Morrison, Abbott and Howard et al.

If you were in this country, you would be a Trump hating lib.

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That’s been good enough for democrats for years.

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Based on the cost being incurred by US citizens through Biden ordering free access through the previously policed remaining gaps in the growing wall, one could say that Trump’s wall was paying for itself.

Of course, some progressive will cleverly debunk that by pointing out that walls cannot sign cheques.

The removal of the stay in Mexico policy is working well.

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