The war on Venezuela (the war on drugs) (regime change)

Read my post. That’s what I said.

You are right. Trump’s campaign against Venezuela is much bigger than drugs, but it makes a good excuse. That’s not unprecedented in the history of military actions. Do you remember Operation Urgent Fury in Grenada?

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I think that is a wish for that poster.

I would say come and get me. Won’t be as easy as you hope. Keep on dreaming we know what you want.

No!

An incursion is "an invasion or attack, especially a sudden or brief one."

Sneaking drugs into US territorial waters is an incursion regardless of their intent.

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It is no different than sneaking ammo in . . . in fact, at certain times it may be more dangerous.

yes he does. Ultimately the mechanics require the SoS to do the paperwork, but the President has the authority to direct him to do it. It is the President’s decision. There is no “consultation” with Congress, just informing them. The Congress can revoke nothing the SCOTUS long ago found congressional vetos unconstitutional.

you know what the President can also do? If they are making incursions into the US he may prevent or repel them, in fact, its his constitutional duty to do so. And there is nothing anyone can do to stop him that would not be treason. Having made or attempted to make or planned or planning to make an incursion into the US makes them an enemy of the US that we are at war with. The only question is if these incursions trigger the WPA’s reporting requirements and that is a question only the Congress can answer.

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an FTO that attempts incursions into the US. They make themselves an enemy through their own actions.

Yes he does.
The unelected bureaucrats who work for the executive branch have all sorts of powers,

  • From designating the width of airline seats,
  • to telling you whether you can dig a ditch on your property,
  • to mandating how often your radio station must have news and weather breaks,
  • to deciding that BLM is not a terrorist group, but aborting protesters are (because an ex-member who once attended 3 meetings once set a fire)
  • to designate which foreign groups are and are not terrorist organizations.

Congress, of course, has the ability to override any of these, but as man has known since the day of ancient Rome, Machiavelli, etc., parliaments seldom intervene with bureaucrats. They are too busy trying to persuade the people what to think.

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Oh?

Look in the mirror.

I’m not defending drug runners. I’m saying we shouldn’t summarily execute them.

So Make your post make sense to me. I asked you what is so scary about these drug runners that requires them to be summarily executed. You said you were afraid of being robbed.

How is my conclusion a straw man?

That’s summary execution.

They are engaged in an international crime but are not within the territorial boundaries of any country, so nobody can arrest them. But there is no law that says vessels used to commit that international crime cannot be targeted and sunk. So if they don’t want to risk being killed, they should stay at the dock instead of taking their boats out to sea where they can be targeted and sunk.

And learn to read. I said your questions are strawmen, not your conclusions.

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No it’s not. It’s the consequences of being on the boat when it is blown up.

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There are hundreds of thousands of American parents, spouses, siblings, children and friends who have lost family members and friends to illegal drug overdoses or perhaps the violence associated with the drug trade. I’m betting these people could give a rats ass about some of these conversations. And the politicians seizing on the TDS word salads du jour? Why are they giving the impression their “defense” of drug traffickers is justified? Are they receiving compensation of some kind from drug cartels? :thinking:

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They can’t be arrested, but they can be killed.

That’s idiotic logic.

Why aren’t we summarily executing the people on the corners selling the drugs?

but of course this boat wasnt headed to the US.

theres that.

Allan

OK tough guy. I’m sure Gavin will have bigger guns.

“Since we’re not at war, we can kill them but we can’t detain them”.

It’s farcical.

I’m shocked anyone can type that with a straight face.

Certainly do, but just goes to show Trump is as keen on getting the US into a miltary conflict as any other president. They all love being CINC and the power it gives them.