The true problem with trump

[WorldWatcher]

@Paul_Thomson

@WorldWatcher

The only reason he won was because he was an unknown quantity

LOL
He was one of the most well-known personalities ever, having been in the headlines for decades.

Let me clarify, by unknown personality I was speaking of was the political realm.

You are correct, people thought they knew him from television and his portrayal of a hard-nosed businessman in the Apprentice series. Were his lines were scripted, lighting just so, hair just so, makeup, etc. Basically a controlled environment.

They didn’t know how much he lies, has meltdown or how bad he was going to be for America on thw world stage.
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[LucyLou]

@Paul_Thomson

I see you are impressed by little pieces of brightly coloured material and metal. I hope you are not a fish.

Wow. True colors right there.

[DOLOOP]

@WorldWatcher

@Paul_Thomson

@WorldWatcher

The only reason he won was because he was an unknown quantity

LOL
He was one of the most well-known personalities ever, having been in the headlines for decades.

Let me clarify, by unknown personality I was speaking of was the political realm.

You are correct, people thought they knew him from television and his portrayal of a hard-nosed businessman in the Apprentice series. Were his lines were scripted, lighting just so, hair just so, makeup, etc. Basically a controlled environment.

They didn’t know how much he lies, has meltdown or how bad he was going to be for America on thw world stage.
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I think a lot us knew about his abhorrent characteristics including these. It’s just that a significant minority of folks either ignored them or reveled in them.

[mollyBrown]

@PizzaReverend

@DougBH

I didn’t say anything about fake. Its bias.
Count the stories on CNN that seem anti Trump in the past 90 days. Now count the stories that are pro Trump. Hows that balance go.
Ok, you don’t like Trump either so you will say that there is nothing positive to write.
Now do the same thing with Breitbart. Likely you will get the reverse.

Nearly half the people in the country voted for Trump. CNN could easily find as many pro Trump people to interview as they have found anti Trump people to interview. Have they done so?
No, it is CNN’s choice to drop half the country from their constituency.

It will never cease to amaze me that this line of thinking is so prevalent among Trumpers. “They keep reporting negative stories about him! Where’s the balance?”

I mean, where are all the pro-Thanos and Pro-Vader stories?! FAKE NEWS IS UNBALANACED.

It can’t be that he’s simply the most incompetent, vulgar, crooked liar we’ve ever had in office.

It ties in with everyone gets a trophy phenomenon that most hate, but seem to really want for Trump.

Trump does crappy things, it gets reported on. It’s really not that hard to understand.

[mollyBrown]

@DougBH

@SimplyTrying

@DougBH

CNN searches out people who hate Trump and make news stories out of that. They’ve been doing it for three years.
They could find some other distinguished military person who would say the opposite if they wanted to. They wont.

LOL. No they couldn’t. Not distinguished.

How about the guy who actually killed Bin Laden? …though the only time he shows up in most media (other than Fox) is when he is critical of Trump…as in Trump’ lame idea of having a big military parade.

Robert O’Neill, Navy Seal who killed Bin Laden, slams Trump parade

The nonstop complaining about news coverage of Trump is truly wild. You have to have a blind eye to his antics to not understand why his coverage is the way it is. Also, I don’t like Fox News. So I don’t watch Fox News. I can self censor if I want. I feel it’s better then complaining into the endless void of the internet.

[acsirip]

@DougBH

They could find some other distinguished military person who would say the opposite if they wanted to.

Do you think there are many out there?

[Kelby]

@PizzaReverend

@DougBH

I didn’t say anything about fake. Its bias.
Count the stories on CNN that seem anti Trump in the past 90 days. Now count the stories that are pro Trump. Hows that balance go.
Ok, you don’t like Trump either so you will say that there is nothing positive to write.
Now do the same thing with Breitbart. Likely you will get the reverse.

Nearly half the people in the country voted for Trump. CNN could easily find as many pro Trump people to interview as they have found anti Trump people to interview. Have they done so?
No, it is CNN’s choice to drop half the country from their constituency.

It will never cease to amaze me that this line of thinking is so prevalent among Trumpers. “They keep reporting negative stories about him! Where’s the balance?”

I mean, where are all the pro-Thanos and Pro-Vader stories?! FAKE NEWS IS UNBALANACED.

It can’t be that he’s simply the most incompetent, vulgar, crooked liar we’ve ever had in office.

Occam’s Razor applies, even if we know nothing else about Trump.

[WorldWatcher]

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Personally I’d like to see some authoritative research, done around the time of the election, on a very simple question.

In the 2016 election what was the proportion of voters that voted for Trump because they agreed with him verses the proportion of voters that voted against Clinton.

It’s a simple question, but subtle.
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[Kelby]

@SimplyTrying

@Paul_Thomson

@WorldWatcher

Having spent 20 years in military service I understand what those brightly colored pieces of material and metal mean.

I’m more impressed with a man that stood up and defended his country then with a man that got a bone-spurs letter from his rich daddy paying a doctor.

So shoot me.
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You’re not impressed with a man who has won the presidency despite the opposition of, and has weathered three years of attacks by: Dems, media, rogue permanent bureaucracy, Hollywood, rogue intel community actors, internet platform technocrats, and is still standing?

He didn’t elect himself. He conned a bunch a people and they voted for him. His presidency is their accomplishment - and their eternal shame.

And why it is so scary to admit they were wrong.

[SimplyTrying]

@mollyBrown

@DougBH

@SimplyTrying

@DougBH

CNN searches out people who hate Trump and make news stories out of that. They’ve been doing it for three years.
They could find some other distinguished military person who would say the opposite if they wanted to. They wont.

LOL. No they couldn’t. Not distinguished.

How about the guy who actually killed Bin Laden? …though the only time he shows up in most media (other than Fox) is when he is critical of Trump…as in Trump’ lame idea of having a big military parade.

Robert O’Neill, Navy Seal who killed Bin Laden, slams Trump parade

The nonstop complaining about news coverage of Trump is truly wild. You have to have a blind eye to his antics to not understand why his coverage is the way it is. Also, I don’t like Fox News. So I don’t watch Fox News. I can self censor if I want. I feel it’s better then complaining into the endless void of the internet.

Exactly.

[SimplyTrying]

@Kelby

@SimplyTrying

@Paul_Thomson

@WorldWatcher

Having spent 20 years in military service I understand what those brightly colored pieces of material and metal mean.

I’m more impressed with a man that stood up and defended his country then with a man that got a bone-spurs letter from his rich daddy paying a doctor.

So shoot me.
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You’re not impressed with a man who has won the presidency despite the opposition of, and has weathered three years of attacks by: Dems, media, rogue permanent bureaucracy, Hollywood, rogue intel community actors, internet platform technocrats, and is still standing?

He didn’t elect himself. He conned a bunch a people and they voted for him. His presidency is their accomplishment - and their eternal shame.

And why it is so scary to admit they were wrong.

False pride, arrogance, fear of not knowing who they are anymore?

[Blackwolf]

@mollyBrown

The nonstop complaining about news coverage of Trump is truly wild. You have to have a blind eye to his antics to not understand why his coverage is the way it is. Also, I don’t like Fox News. So I don’t watch Fox News. I can self censor if I want. I feel it’s better then complaining into the endless void of the internet.

“Why is the media coverage of Donald so negative?!?”

[LucyLou]

@Blackwolf

“Why is the media coverage of Donald so negative?!?”

It just makes me shake my head every time I see that.

The compulsion to point at someone else always and never look to blame Donald.

[DougBH]

@WorldWatcher

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Personally I’d like to see some authoritative research, done around the time of the election, on a very simple question.

In the 2016 election what was the proportion of voters that voted for Trump because they agreed with him verses the proportion of voters that voted against Clinton.

It’s a simple question, but subtle.
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And based on the pool of Democrats, that same situation is likely to recur in 2020.

[Blackwolf]

@LucyLou

It just makes me shake my head every time I see that.

The compulsion to point at someone else always and never look to blame Donald.

Wait - are you saying there might be something wrong with Donald that in turn leads to negative press coverage?!?

[Phaedrus]

@Weedhopper

All those investigations into Obama and his Deepstate that you’re ignoring will bring light to who the enemy is.

Would that be the four years of investigations, when you had both houses of Congress, that turned up NOTHING? If they had, there would have been indictments, right? You know, like all the indictments in this administration during its first two years, when you STILL had both houses of Congress. Or were all those Republican Congressmen and Senators part of the Deep State?

[Phaedrus]

@DougBH

And based on the pool of Democrats, that same situation is likely to recur in 2020.

Which Democrats engender the same level of hatred that Hillary did? I don’t hear chants of “Lock her/him up!” at Trump rallies when Warren or Sanders name is brought up. Just “Those crazy Socialists!”

[Phaedrus]

@Paul_Thomson

Did Obama direct Brennan and Comey and Clapper to investigate his political rivals using foreign sources in Ukraine, Russia, UK, Australia, Italy? If he did, should he be charged now that he is no longer the sitting President?

Did he? Credible citation please.

[Paul_Thomson]

@Phaedrus

Did he? Credible citation please.

That’s what Barr is investigating, among MANY other things. I asked a question. Unlike CNN and other fake news agencies who made declarations re Trump-Russia without credible citations.

[Phaedrus]

Ahhh… I see the problem here. Barr - all by his lonesome, not conflicted at all - is credible. CNN and dozens of other news agencies - with decades-long histories of researching stories through documentation and/or two or more sources - are not credible. Got it.