correct. it like difference between everyone.
in the end, we are all human.
Allan
correct. it like difference between everyone.
in the end, we are all human.
Allan
Probably.
Libs seem to be above the law.
Trials in blue cities will result in jury nullification.
Samm:
That’s not an answer, it’s just more evasion.
we have a real PITA at work. a taker.
when he asks me for something what do i do?
i give it to him. no questions asked.
see how easy life is when you treat people with kindness and equality along with everyone else.
now extend that to trans
see how easy life just got.
This conversation is not about treating people with kindness, it’s about choosing between two qualified job applicants.
And you still have not answered the questions.
altair1013:
But, if a man is pretending to be a woman
no buts allowed. leave all people alone.
its a really easy concept.
any unequal treatment is unethical and against the law.
Define “unequal treatment.”
This conversation is not about treating people with kindness, it’s about choosing between two qualified job applicants.
its about discrimination.
Allan
Define “unequal treatment.”
speaks for itself.
Allan
Samm:
This conversation is not about treating people with kindness, it’s about choosing between two qualified job applicants.
its about discrimination.
No it’s not, it’s about your perception of discrimination. In the scenarios I asked you about (and never received a reply) either candidate could claim discrimination if they didn’t get the job according to your rules.
Samm:
Define “unequal treatment.”
speaks for itself.
So, does not hiring one of the two equally qualified applicants constitute unequal treatment?
No it’s not, it’s about your perception of discrimination.
no actual bona fide discrimination.
the kind that happened in the SCOTUS case.
blatant out and out discrimination.
illegal and unethical treatment of fellow human beings.
Allan
no buts allowed. leave all people alone
Exactly. Men should leave female athletes alone and stay out of their locker rooms. No buts allowed.
Samm:
The only thing that is clear Allan, is that there is no substance to your thesis. You can’t even answer fundamental questions regarding what is or is not discrimination.
read the SCOTUS opinion.
discrimination does happen.
now its against the law.
Allan
But if you hire the trans in your hypothetical, you ARE discriminating against the normal applicant because you hired the trans BECAUSE they are trans.
Samm:
No it’s not, it’s about your perception of discrimination.
no actual bona fide discrimination.
the kind that happened in the SCOTUS case.
blatant out and out discrimination.
illegal and unethical treatment of fellow human beings.
Just stop it Allan. You have completely failed to identify the discrimination in the scenario we have been discussing. All you have done is repeat the same tired platitude over and over.
Just stop it Allan.
its in the SCOTUS case. read it. then if you dont get it. read it again.
discrimination happens.
putting you head in the sand doesnt mean it doesnt happen.
Allan
Samm:
Just stop it Allan.
its in the SCOTUS case. read it. then if you dont get it. read it again.
discrimination happens.
putting you head in the sand doesnt mean it doesnt happen.
Don’t get stuck on stupid Allan. Absolutely no one has even remotely suggested that discrimination does not happen. That is NOT what the conversation is about.
Absolutely no one has even remotely suggested that discrimination does not happen
then why the heated arguement.
everyone knows that trans and gays are discriminated against.
Allan
The only one arguing is you. The rest of us are simply trying to get you to answer the questions we have asked.
The only one arguing is you. The rest of us are simply trying to get you to answer the questions we have asked.
Exactly, questions such as:
Is one discriminating against the normal applicant if they hire the trans one??
Exactly, questions such as:
Is one discriminating against the normal applicant if they hire the trans one??
so which one do you hire?
be honest for a change?
Allan
Is the Department of Defence who hired both and under the Trump administration is banning transgender from serving and ordering those already there to leave, counted as discrimination?
The way you said normal applicant or trans probably answers your question.
If people are normal, as you put it, what could they be discriminated for?