Yes! The world reacted and ozone concentrations have been increasing since the banning of CFCs. Great example of the world coming together to solve a problem.
Roxiebelle: Camp:They…media…scared me with the energy crisis and ice age hysteria in the early 70s.
Thankfully it was easy to ignore and counter then.
Remember the Ozone layer hysteria?
Yes! The world reacted and ozone concentrations have been increasing since the banning of CFCs. Great example of the world coming together to solve a problem.
Yes but that was a trivial problem compared to climate.
Yes but that was a trivial problem compared to climate.
Yes and the depressing intractability of it is leading a lot of folks to experience- grief, sadness, anger, etc- especially our kids and grandkids who see the future.
zantax:Yes but that was a trivial problem compared to climate.
Yes and the depressing intractability of it is leading a lot of folks to experience- grief, sadness, anger, etc- especially our kids and grandkids who see the future.
Technology will solve it before it gets too bad. Some great batteries coming, small modular reactors, solar, etc are now viable. And with cheap power, we can pull carbon out of the air as well.
You have more hope than I. But I hope you are right.
You have more hope than I. But I hope you are right.
Information-related fields advance exponentially, we are hitting the steep part of that curve, I am more worried about super AI than climate change.
And if we do manage to stand up a strong AI without it killing us all, climate should be relatively simple for something that will be thousands of times smarter than humans, if it cares enough to help us out.
It’s not anthropogenic.
zantax:Yes but that was a trivial problem compared to climate.
Yes and the depressing intractability of it is leading a lot of folks to experience- grief, sadness, anger, etc- especially our kids and grandkids who see the future.
Who have been indoctrinated to see something.
You progs sure have a problem with correlation v causation.
Earth’s temperature has risen by 0.14° F (0.08° C) per decade since 1880, and the rate of warming over the past 40 years is more than twice that: 0.32° F (0.18° C) per decade since 1981.
2020 was the second-warmest year on record based on NOAA’s temperature data, and land areas were record warm.
Averaged across land and ocean, the 2020 surface temperature was 1.76° F (0.98° Celsius) warmer than the twentieth-century average of 57.0°F (13.9°C) and 2.14˚F (1.19˚C) warmer than the pre-industrial period (1880-1900).
Despite a late-year La Niña event that cooled a wide swath of the tropical Pacific Ocean, 2020 came just 0.04˚ Fahrenheit (0.02˚Celsius) shy of tying 2016 for warmest year on record.
The 10 warmest years on record have occurred since 2005.
From 1900 to 1980 a new temperature record was set on average every 13.5 years; from 1981–2019, a new record was set every 3 years.
iTs JuSt A hOaX!!!
Okay, not a hoax. What are you going to do about it? Remove humans from the environment?
Okay, not a hoax.
Wow…I’ll take it!!
What are you going to do about it?
Already said- I am not optimistic. I still support global efforts to keep climate change from warming above 2 degrees- but I understand that human nature is to use up every available resource until it is gone. Most of our efforts should go into adaptation.
It’s not anthropogenic.
You don’t know that.
Samm:Okay, not a hoax.
Wow…I’ll take it!!
For conversation purposes. Now converse.
WuWei:It’s not anthropogenic.
You don’t know that.
Yes, I do. I grew up on a ranch. I know bull dung when I see it right off.
Human hubris.
Nature rules us.
Human hubris.
The virus is another example.
Samm:What are you going to do about it?
Already said- I am not optimistic. I still support global efforts to keep climate change from warming above 2 degrees- but I understand that human nature is to use up every available resource until it is gone. Most of our efforts should go into adaptation.
Like what?
Human hubris.
You don’t believe that humans can change our enviornment? Seriously?
Like what?
Preparing for increased forest fires, desertification, flooding, reduced water tables and arable land, changing farming conditions, etc etc.