The future of public schools

[TheRedComet]

From a demographic standpoint an all Korean school would probably dominate everything else.

[WuWei]

@Guilds

most people want the least amount of government in our lives,

That’s not true.

@Guilds

and at the same time, having a government that that is effective, fair and accountable.

That’s not possible.

[WuWei]

@Guilds

Do we get there by calling those we disagree with irrational names and contempt?

The unmitigated gall…

[WuWei]

@TheRedComet

Certain demographics of school age have issues.

Why?
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[Guilds]

@Eagle-Keeper

How about calling those you disagree with “deplorable”, or “mega maga extremists”, or “white supremacists”, “homophobes” etc., How about we’re coming for you Kavanaugh, we’re coming for you Gorsuch? Dem politicians have perfected the art of hate and division. It’s also laughable with you saying how most people want the least amount of government in their lives when all you talk about is how government should be in charge of and fund all aspects of education, healthcare, childcare, etc. Please tell me of all the negative things that have happened in the country that you blame Democrats for?

MAGA, are MAGA…so calling them that, is accurate. Some are deplorables…not all. We are in a strange time, with the R party being taken over by Trumplicans…there are still some reasonable Republicans, but many have been pushed out, or called RINOs. Dozens of RW Republicans have been banned or no longer come here, as they did not swallow the MAGA path. There is a distinction.

Healthcare, education should be provided by government…most people cannot afford private schools, or high end insurance health insurance policies. Every other 1st would country has some sort of nationalized healthcare and education up to a doctorate. We are the outlier.

Democrats got on board with neoliberalism, following Reagan…and helped create the wealth gap we have today. They also over reach and do stupid things at times…Dems are far from perfect.

[WuWei]

@Guilds

neoliberalism

[Guilds]

@Eagle-Keeper

Why do you think many countries are crime infested poverty-stricken ■■■■■■■■■ decade after decade? Why do you think certain ethnic groups (proportionally) have been very successful in the US while others have not? If the children going into our schools increasingly continue to be from broken dysfunctional families along with importing millions and millions of impoverished children and their problems from every country in the world, it won’t matter how much ■■■■■■■ money and new government programs are implemented. If there were all these magic fixes out there wouldn’t every country just plop them into place and fix all the problems?

I would not recommend utilizing tactics or policies from countries that are crime infested poverty-stricken. I do not know why some ethic groups do better than others…do you? I would imagine there are a lot of variables to be able to pin it on just a few things.

[Guilds]

@TheRedComet

But i would certainly love to see the US adopt a German styled primary education system. It’s the best in the world. But I dunno if we could actually pull it off.

Most states are not that much bigger than Germany. If ran by states, with some funding coming from the Fed could possibly work?

[conan]

@Guilds

What is the solution to fix our schools?

Should we privatize? Do vouchers work?

Can we learn from other countries that have better results?

What we do know your way isn’t working…and that’s a fact.

[Guilds]

@Eagle-Keeper

@TheRedComet

That’s why I like the German system. It’s designed to figure out what the student is good at early and then softly steer them into coursework designed for that kind of career goal.

That said I do think it is important for everyone to learn the basics of the humanities and philosophy.

I agree with you on that as well, which is why I believe a better system transitions the focus at the teenage years but doesn’t eliminate the academics altogether.

All of that sounds reasonable to me.

[TheRedComet]

They don’t prioritize the value of education in their home lives.

[TheRedComet]

It’s not a money problem. It’s mostly a culture and demographic problem.

[WuWei]

Define neoliberalism.

[WuWei]

@TheRedComet

They don’t prioritize the value of education in their home lives.

Or self-discipline or manners or service.

[Guilds]

@conan

What we do know your way isn’t working…

What is my way of thinking regarding schools? I am open to changes that have proven results from other systems.

[WuWei]

[conan]

@Guilds

What is my way of thinking regarding schools? I am open to changes that have proven results from other systems.

We talked about changes but you always dismissed them outright. Personally I think we should use one room school house model.

[WuWei]

@Guilds

I would not recommend utilizing tactics or policies from countries that are crime infested poverty-stricken.

Why not? Are those not the areas here failing and dragging down the rest of the country?

[Guilds]

@TheRedComet

It’s not a money problem. It’s mostly a culture and demographic problem.

Our demographics make it more of a challenge, but we could certainly do better, if we had the will to do it.
Constantly berating a sytstem w/out offering viable solutions is not helpful.

[conan]

@Guilds

What is my way of thinking regarding schools? I am open to changes that have proven results from other systems.

BTW…kudos. You’re the one lib on this entire forum that posted in this thread. What does that tell you?