The Curious Case of Kilmar Abrego Garcia

[Camp]

Its almost too easy.

[WuWei]

You know propaganda when you see it.

Why’d they move him?

[WuWei]

@Camp

Its almost too easy.

114 out of 20 million? Slayin’!

[DougBH]

@JayJay

Garcia wasn’t here illegally.

He was sent to the one country we were not supposed to send him.

Your second sentence is true.

[conan]

@WuWei

114 out of 20 million? Slayin’!

Just need 100 thousand more of those raids.

[Samm]

@WuWei

The fight is inside you, a raging war.

No internal conflict here. I am completely at peace. It must be your imagination getting the best of you again.

[Samm]

@WuWei

@Samm

It has nothing to do with morality, it’s a legal matter.

Mmmm. So in your mind, the two are mutually exclusive?

They better be. The last thing we want in this country is the morality police like they have in places like Iran and Afghanistan. I don’t think even you would like that.

[Samm]

@WuWei

@Samm

Garcia’s was rescinded by another Judge.

No it wasn’t.

Yes it was. That’s how they got him on that plane to El Salvador.

[Samm]

@Samson_Corwell

@Samm

@Samson_Corwell

@Samm

@Samson_Corwell

@Samm

Immorality is subjective.

In which Samm admits there is nothing actually wrong with murder, rape, child molestation, slavery, theft, and mutilation.

You have an amazing imagination. No matter how hard I try, cannot figure out how you extrapolated that conclusion from my absolute truism.

You don’t believe that those things are wrong, but you CAN’T believe those things are wrong if you think (im)morality is subjective.

Just stop. I never said anything about what I believe or don’t. You conjured all of that up with your over stimulated imagination. Morality is not uniform. It varies from era to era and from society to society from group to group. That makes it subjective.

“Beliefs about the shape of Earth changed from century to century, therefore the shape of Earth is subjective.”

Now you’re just being silly.

[Samm]

@Samson_Corwell

@Samm

@Samson_Corwell

@peek-a-boo

@WuWei

MS-13 is a US gang. Not a foreign anything.

While it has its origins in the US, it is very much an international gang.

Okay, so they’re like the Mafia instead of al-Qaeda.

It doesn’t matter who they are more like, they are a terrorist organization.

Technical Difficulties

IDGAF.

Of course you don’t. Your mind is made up. FTF.

[Samm]

@JayJay

@Samm

@Oryx

@Samm

But they are citizens of that country (at least Garcia is) so how does that become our problem?

Come on, Samm. Everyone knows the answer to your question, yet for some reason ( ) you keep asking it. We paid them millions to imprison dangerous gang members in CECOT, then we sent Garcia there and told them he’s a dangerous gang member. The US government is responsible for his lifetime imprisonment without a trial.

Yes, the answer is obvious … they were here illegally, now they’re gone.

Garcia wasn’t here illegally.

He was sent to the one country we were not supposed to send him.

He snuck in without permission. That’s illegal.

The impetus for his protective order has been eliminated by El Salvador, therefore, it became moot.

[Samm]

@JayJay

@Samm

@Oryx

@Samm

Yes, the answer is obvious … they were here illegally, now they’re gone.

Imprisoned for life with no trial. That’s immoral, Samm.

Immorality is subjective. Some would say that allowing MS13 gangs to run rampant around our country is immoral.

You’re offering a false choice to cover up the immorality.

It’s a false choice to say that either we imprison people without due process or else we will be allowing MS-13 to run rampant.

That’s that kind of rationalization rulers hope you’ll make because when you do, you usually also justify giving the rulers more power to stomp on rights.

I’m not offering anything but facts and logic. And I never presented that choice … that came entirely from your imagination. When you pull that ■■■■■ you are essentially arguing with yourself.

[Samm]

@JayJay

@WuWei

@JayJay

Garcia wasn’t here illegally.

Yes he was. Deferred execution is not absolution.

But it is a temporary legal status.

Yes … but it expired.

[Samm]

@biggestal99

@peek-a-boo

He isn’t being criminally prosecuted so it is irrelevant.

its relevant to his deportation.

Nope. He’s an illegal alien … Therefore, he was subject to deportation regardless of his behavior while here.

[biggestal99]

@Samm

Nope. He’s an illegal alien

and was under removal protected status with a legal work permit until illegally deported to ES.

you just cant wrap this in this nice tidy bow of “illegal alien”

Allan

[JayJay]

@peek-a-boo

@biggestal99

only alleged.

He isn’t being criminally prosecuted so it is irrelevant.

Nice of you to admit we imprisoned him without due process, finally.

[JayJay]

@Samm

@JayJay

@WuWei

@JayJay

Garcia wasn’t here illegally.

Yes he was. Deferred execution is not absolution.

But it is a temporary legal status.

Yes … but it expired.

It had not.

The Trump Administration admitted as such before firing and then trying to intimidate the lawyer who did so.

[peek-a-boo]

@JayJay

Nice of you to admit we imprisoned him without due process, finally.

Why do you always feel the need to make stuff up?

[peek-a-boo]

@JayJay

The Trump Administration admitted as such before firing and then trying to intimidate the lawyer who did so.

Another LW talking point. The context is critical in this particular case. But the left conveniently ignores it.

[peek-a-boo]

@biggestal99

and was under removal protected status with a legal work permit until illegally deported to ES.

you just cant wrap this in this nice tidy bow of “illegal alien”

Allan

He is in the country illegally. He is a member of MS-13, which has been designated as an FTO. He was mistakenly deported to ES, before having an immigration hearing to remove his protected status.