The Curious Case of Kilmar Abrego Garcia (Part 2)

You already did.

Well, I originally posted that article because a poster said there was video making certain claims so added that to their post for those possibly wanting to see it.

Then, of course, all of ya lost your ■■■■ as usual so now I’m pretty much just enjoying the ■■■■ show y’all have created over your new hero and watching y’all scramble with defenses. I rarely drink so gotta find entertainment where you can and this just winds y’all up so much its easy.

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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-04-09/about-90-of-migrants-sent-to-salvador-lacked-us-criminal-record

90%

This lawsuit was linked a few weeks ago by @Oryx I believe.

I’ve spent a little more time with it this go 'round.

One thing I noticed is that the prolific use of render by the plaintiffs to describe actions taken by the administration. They intentionally avoided using the word deport to describe those actions.

Legally, they have two very different meanings. With deportation, the deportee loses protection of the constitution in the receiving country. The lawsuit would have no merit within the context of legal deportations.

Rendering is legally defined as a handing over of someone to another jurisdiction. With it there is a presumption that rights guaranteed by the constitution are protected. Within that context, the lawsuit has merit.

Those being sent to ES are being legally deported. They aren’t simply being handed over to ES for incarceration, as claimed by the lawsuit.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

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But of course. “Read the 14th amendment”. :yawning_face:

The administration legally deported them.

You will continue reciting your LW talking points.

And maybe one day, after reciting your LW talking points for the thousandth time, I will suddenly see that LIBs have been right all along.

Ah.

The land of make believe, where your wishes can come true.

No, it is rendition. Where do you think Miller got the idea.

“are”, garcia “was” illegally deported to ES.

Allan

Oh and just a reminder, the announced architect of this deal, Marco Rubio, is the son of economic immigrants.

Not fleeing communism.

Oh and he is a beneficiary of birthright citizenship.

if it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it usually is a duck.

Allan

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:point_up_2: Big Al’s scientific logic.

Using the same logic, someone on trial for criminal activity is very likely to lie or embellish to defend themselves. The prisons are full of men and women who swear they are innocent.

The man is a living legend. A hero. He wouldn’t lie

So is the government.

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No problem. South Sudan, CECOT. Wherever.

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Good point. But that’s not why politicians lie.

I read that a couple days ago. They knew exactly what they were doing. Trump inc is in some legal jeopardy after what I just found in the lawsuit against the state department. They really screwed up.

On information and belief, U.S. residents who are disappeared into CECOT experience the same treatment as Salvadoran prisoners there. Culver, supra ¶ 34.

According to CECOT’s own prison director, they receive no special privileges. Id. And according to reporting, when El Salvador asked the State Department what “requirements” it requested for the people it was rendering, Secretary Rubio’s chief of staff responded that the “baseline requirements do not differ from El Salvador’s for the treatment of prisoners.” Hansler & Alvarez, supra ¶ 47.

They gave El Salvador permission to torture and abuse these men just like all the other prisoners there.

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but you do agree it was illegal as opposed to legal?

Allan

CECOT is a known human rights violator.

Allan