Uh oh
They could beā¦ depending on the individual and the desired career.
Ivy League schools definitely have valueā¦ but not for 90+% of potential students. I work with people who graduated from Stanford, MIT, Harvard etcā¦ they are literally the smartest people Iāve worked with. However Iāve also worked with very smart people who dropped out of HS and got a GED.
I really wish high schools would stop being a farm system for college and really start focusing on directing certain students to a trade. Plumbers, electricians, mechanics can make very good money and itās stable since they are always needed.
But ya know all the wannabe young philosophers who want to be the next Hegel or the next Marx. And expect the rest of us to pay for it.
Thatās the point of Marxism: parasitism, laziness, permanent victimhood that ends up making others work harder to pay for their ā ā ā ā ā
When youāve lost Al Sharptonā¦
But donāt you think that secondary school (high school to you) naturally does this through grades needed for certain 3rd level courses.
For instance only a small few will get the grades needed to be a doctor or vet. Only a small few want to spend 7 years doing so.
To qualify for a trade requires 3rd level college and involves passing exams at a trade school. Nurses now need to attend college to get a job.
It would be great if schools offered woodwork, metalwork etc instead of these social science career guidance nothing classes which is often an excuse for a free class to the teacher (my daughter is watching Hitchcock movies in her career guidance class).
Not when the grading system is perverted through a lens of equity, or when the admissions system is perverted through the same lens.
I suspect that each of these University Presidents, with all of their intellect, thought that they were beyond reach of accountability. They failed to read the mood of the people in response to what occurred. Now they realize that their continued employment is now at risk. That reality, and only that reality, is driving their current contriteness.
They are highly educated but i would question their actual intellect.
People pushing crit prog canāt be all that intelligent.
Knowledge does not equal intelligence/intelligence does not equal knowledge, and neither equals judgement.
Well no matter the many flaws in the system which you mention only a small few will get the grades to qualify to be a doctor say.
No matter how hard i studied i wouldnāt have made the grade and thatās ok but even trades need 3rd level training.
Our colleges love to get Freshmen into the system, charge them huge amounts (usually borrowed) and then flunk them out, while keeping the funds. Then they go to the community college grads to fill up their upper classman numbers by transfer. Itās a racket for these schools.
So well said a doctor wouldnāt be able to rewire their house and often are clueless about other stuff.
The problem seems rest on high school education, my experience is the teachers donāt seem to care and as ipads are required in my daughters school, they rely on them to expect students to teach themselves.
A lot are mid 20s and clueless.
Covid classes were a joke, 2 years education gone down the drain.
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Sadly nothing new there from even my days in high school back in the 70s. There were a few really great teachers, a few really terrible teachers, and a bunch of folks in the middle just punching the clock.
The thing that bothers me the most and wasnāt a factor back then is the overt reliance on computers to study and be taught.
When I asked my daughter if she read Romeo and Juilet in class she said no but they watched the movie.
Iām a firm believer that K-8 should be mostly low tech instruction. Math in your head, or on scratch paper, actual writing, by hand, and a focus on reading comprehension, effective writing and math, with scientific concepts added in at grade 7. Then in high school allow the tech aids, word processors, calcxulators.
Yeah and I think 2 years break from covid put teachers coming back to work in a ācouldnāt be arsedā frame of mind.
There didnāt seem to be any attempt to make up the lost time.
The problem seems rest on high school education, my experience is the teachers donāt seem to care and as ipads are required in my daughters school, they rely on them to expect students to teach themselves.
I drive a school bus and transport elementary, middle and high school students. Of the 140 or so high schoolers I move every AM & PM and talking to them Iād say maybe 10% are ready to step out into the adult world. And chances are they come from grounded homes where discipline keeps them on even keel. Most high schoolers severely lack social snd language skills. Their conversations sound as if theyāve never had English grammar classes. Iāve used words like āaspirationsā or āanecdotalā and they have no idea what Iām saying! Yesterday I made a comment about the anniversary of Imperial Japanese sneak attack on Pearl Harbor. A young man who is an 11th grader asked me how I know so much!
We are so screwed
Something is going to have to change.
I could have made this post myself itās unbelievable.
Social media should be called unsocial media.
I tell my 22 year old son playing video games still at home (working full time though) men his age were fighting wars and were parents by then.
But you hit the nail on the head socially inept, lacking common sense and so many other things.
But as @bigtwnvin says these kids are glued to their screens 24/7. The amount of people i see crossing a road for example looking at their phones is unreal.
Technology is an unstoppable force.