They have tapped into a crooked vein of culture that exists because there is a certain amount of people that will defend their ■■■■■■■■■■ simply because it makes those they they don’t like upset.
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I was thinking from the last post: there’s a guy a few houses down from me. Looks like late-30s. Veteran. Married. Very reserved but sociable enough. Helps out around the neighborhood. Seems to like his wife. Hangs out with his toddler son. Owns a giant Dodge pickup truck. Firefighter for the city. On the kid’s birthday, he brings the fire truck around.
I can’t say that I know him well, or know anything much else about his background. I have no idea what his politics are. He’s not chatty. But even with relatively little information, I’d 100% rather have this random guy who happens to live 40 yards away from me influencing my son than Andrew Tate.
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Jordan Peterson’s argument of “clean your room” is great and all but coming out of the mouth of a bigoted weirdo who got addicted to benzos and almost died from going to Russia to do a quick and dirty plan to get off of them that no Western Country does because it is insanely dangerous… well… it just doesn’t hit as hard.
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What y’all don’t understand is most of the non controversial things he says don’t need to come from him to have impact.
Eat well, work out, be a leader for example are good things but there are better men to follow who espouse similar traits.
Bottom line you don’t need to follow a piece of ■■■■ person in order to get general life advice.
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It doesn’t matter. I’m sure if you gave me a list of those you listen to I could find several things that make them pieces of ■■■■ in my opinion.
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Because Tate acts like he does on YouTube and podcasts, a certain slice of men go weak in the knees for him. If he acted like that in their neighborhood they’d punch him in the mouth and keep their family far far from him.
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I’ve heard men who’ve talked about YouTube workout gurus in this context (not Tate specifically). Like: there’s some cool exercise/weightlifting program, but the guy will also be into some kind of weird or off-putting new age/personal philosophy/religious ■■■■■■■■ . I can see that.
But that doesn’t seem like the case with Tate: his defenders seem to like him because of his dickish qualities, not despite them.
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I don’t think so. Both-siderism has its limits. There are conventional flaws, failings, hypocrisies, bad behavior, ■■■■■■ personalities (on one hand), and then there’s imprisoned awaiting trial for rape and human trafficking in Romania (on the other hand). I just don’t understand why it’s so important for some people to do free public relations for this ■■■■■■■■
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I will never understand their sticking up for this creep.
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I’m trying to think of equivalence to this one.
I’m probably not going to be here defending a person or talking up their admirable qualities if it’s some pornographer literally imprisoned and awaiting trial for credible accusations of completely on-brand sex-crimes. It seems like a reasonable standard.
For some reason, this whole discussion reminds me of a legendary dril tweet:
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Correct.
Can’t bear to criticize anything about him.
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None.
There is nothing inherently wrong with having masculine traits. However, when you use those traits to belittle, dominate, control, abuse or do harm to a woman it negates any positive characteristics you may have. Tate should be nobody’s role model.
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Why? What’s special about “women”? Aren’t they equal?
Mmmmmm
Yes except of physicality.
No women in combat?
No males in women’s sports?
I have issues with both. It’s why I don’t participate in those threads.
Are women men’s equal in selflessness?
They can be.
I disagree. Take their kids out of the equation.
