Anything that has ever arisen for any reason besides socialism --including retirement, charity, postal service and militaries – is NOT socialist nor depending on socialism for them to exist in some form.
That guff is just your lot inserting yourselves where you’ve no rightful claim to be as if you’d always existed … which you haven’t.
Socialism is derived from the worst ideological crap ever pulled from the European backside.
What presumably early industry are you talking about and before socialism as a set of economic and governing ideas were formulated in the 19th century how could they be properly socialist except that they were arbitrarily claimed by socialist after the fact?
As I said, that’s writing socialism into places where it wasn’t.
For example, in days long gone the king and the nobles often had all the means of production, or the lion’s share, for reasons entirely foreign anything in socialism … would you say they as the government were somehow socialist even though they didn’t know it?
Right now if a government ran industry that would be “Socialist” because the socialist have already ■■■■ out their turd into human thinking … just as big government and big business colluding together for their mutual benefit and security using the pretext of elimination of poverty through full employment would be fascist – all that neo-pagan Nazi BS aside of course – again, that floaty is already bobbing down history’s sewer.
But the point I was making is that before the 19th century when these were fully plopped out lots of things that socialist claim as if they wouldn’t exist but for them were in various forms already around. Socialism is to innovation of society what a third teat is on a shirtless man, doubly useless but freakishly in your face.
You don’t get to rewrite the history of human innovation to shove your favorite ideology up place it never was when things were invented.
That’s why I say the afar Left is like fire ants, they proverbially disagreeably show up in your yard and start demanding what you’re doing in their homeland.
Teddy Roosevelt went campaigning against what now?
If someone uses a tool that you didn’t care that it wasn’t a delegated power when you think it’sfor the good then you’ve no right to start making a fuss about it now.
The entity of government being effectively the autocrat for the good of the people is just the old ways warmed over with new spices.
At least the oooold autocrats were frequently innocent of wanting to kill off a genuinely liberal society where people owned stuff, could seek rent, and manage their own affairs without crown of bureaucrat lording it over them, dispatching hoards of officials to eat out their substance and claim it’s for their own good.
Progressivism has become hostile to everything this country was founded to be.
Maybe getting it is why I’m inherently hostile to it?
It’s vile.
How vile?
Of the three statist ideologies that dominated the minds of so many for the last century --fascism, socialism and communism in that order – it took the neo-pagan anti-Christian antI-Jewish put near anti-everyone-else bigotry that was Nazism to make fascism (which is bad enough to begin with) as bad as communism tends to be on its own completely apart from anything like that self same new-pagan racist BS.