Tampa General: great success with COVID-19 treatment, reduces hospital stays

If one reads the actual study, it is cited that previous infection with vaccination offers the greatest amount of protection.

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A lot of things are cited, and many are rejected in the overall perspective.

You really are adept and clouding the issue in favor of universal vaccine jabbing. Why, when the science rejects that notion?

JWK

Let us never forget. There is now both domestic and foreign blood on the hands of all those who voted for the Biden/Harris ticket.

It is quite silly to point to a study to prove one’s point but reject their findings.

Can’t have it both ways.

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Once again you insinuate the covid jab is superior to natural immunity, when the evidence contradicts your constant assertion the covid jab is superior.

In any event, for those who are interested in what Israel is saying regarding natural immunity, see:

Natural infection vs vaccination: Which gives more protection?

“Nearly 40% of new COVID patients were vaccinated - compared to just 1% who had been infected previously”

“According to a report by Israel’s Channel 13, Health Ministry data on the wave of COVID outbreaks which began this May show that Israelis with immunity from natural infection were far less likely to become infected again in comparison to Israelis who only had immunity via vaccination.”

JWK
Let us never forget. There is now both domestic and foreign blood on the hands of all those who voted for the Biden/Harris ticket.

In order to get natural immunity, one has to catch Covid and survive it. Are you suggesting that everyone should just catch Covid, instead of vaccine?

Getting the vaccine is far safer than actually getting infected by Covid 19.

For those who have been infected, getting vaccinated on top of it confers even more protection to new variants.

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Well, aren’t you the clever one? Resorting to another stupid debating trick . . . moving the goalposts when you are proven to be wrong.

You falsely suggested the Israeli study shows “…that previous infection with vaccination offers the greatest amount of protection…” But as it turns out . . . you are absolutely wrong.

See: Natural infection vs vaccination: Which gives more protection?

“Nearly 40% of new COVID patients were vaccinated - compared to just 1% who had been infected previously”

“According to a report by Israel’s Channel 13, Health Ministry data on the wave of COVID outbreaks which began this May show that Israelis with immunity from natural infection were far less likely to become infected again in comparison to Israelis who only had immunity via vaccination.”

And now, instead of fessing up that you were wrong, you move the goalposts and post a generalize and misleading comment which ignores the actual numbers of those who survive covid. See: Mortality Analyses - Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center (jhu.edu)

The survival rate to covid is about 99%. Of course, one’s own probability of surviving covid depends upon age and one’s own medical history, i.e., people with diabetes, asthma, high blood pressure, chronic kidney disease, cancer, etc., are at a higher risk of death due to covid. These are the people who probably would benefit from the vaccine, while those who are at low risk and get covid, and beat it, do better with their natural immunity.

Why are you so intent on promoting a one size fits all, get the jab, which is interior to natural immunity, and when natural immunity is an essential part of achieving herd immunity? Your comments are becoming more and more suspicious.

JWK

Let us never forget. There is now both domestic and foreign blood on the hands of all those who voted for the Biden/Harris ticket.

Are you suggesting that catching Covid is a better alternative than vaccination?

Those are what the studies about all of this say.

The Israeli Study that shows that having Covid may have a better immune response to Delta than vaccination.

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So right there you can see that it is shown that previous infection plus vaccination gives greater protection to Delta.

Getting the vaccine is much much safer to aquire an immune response to Covid than being previously uninfected and being unvaccinated.

Did you miss the following concerning your evidence?

This article is a preprint and has not been peer-reviewed [what does this mean?]. It reports new medical research that has yet to be evaluated and so should not be used to guide clinical practice.

JWK

Dude… you do realize that that is the study that you yourself has been pointing to that shows that being previously infected is better than vaccination… right?

You are now disbelieving what you have been holding up as the “truth”?

Is that what is going here?

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Ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, zinc, quercetin, vitamins C and D, aspirin, melatonin.

. . . and, the antibody treatment dubbed by many as a “game changer”.

Aside from that see: After slow start, demand for COVID monoclonal antibodies treatment skyrockets

Aug. 25th, 2021

For most of this year, the drugs President Donald Trump credited for his quick recovery from COVID-19 have sat unused on government shelves.

In a typical week in June, monoclonal antibodies were given to only 10 people across the entire Houston metropolitan area.

Now, though, demand is skyrocketing.

This week, about 1,200 Houston-area patients will receive REGN-COV, a monoclonal antibody made by the drug company Regeneron of Tarrytown, New York.

The article goes on to point out, Florida’s Gov., Ron DeSantis, has been advocating the treatment and has opened antibody treatment centers around the State.

One thing for certain, since DeSantis opened a number of antibody treatment centers around the State, not only has the number of covid deaths leveled off, but are now dropping. And, nationwide, also since a number of States have followed DeSantis’ lead and are opening antibody treatment centers, the nationwide death toll from covid has also leveled off and is now falling.

Thank you Gov. DeSantis for taking the lead and relying on a science based approach in dealing with the Covid outbreak.

JWK

Let us never forget. There is now both domestic and foreign blood on the hands of all those who voted for the Biden/Harris ticket.

It’s great that the monoclonal antibodies are available, though pretty expensive. The meds we take are really inexpensive. We need all the weapons we can get against covid though, so am glad people can get the antibodies if they have to!

As to the cost of the antibody treatment, [about $1,500, but free to those who get it], it is far, far less expensive than winding up in a hospital with a life threatening covid infection. It is an important tool in fighting Covid, which more than likely will be with us for years, and years to come!

JWK

The citizens of the United States paid little attention while their tyrannical federal government gave aid and comfort to hundreds of thousands of foreign nationals invading their country.

You know what is even cheaper than both?

Getting the vaccine. It has the added bonus of highly effective prevention

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:roll_eyes:

For some reason which eludes me, the covid “pandemic” seems to have caused mass hysteria, fear mongering, finger pointing, and an overwhelming loss of rational thinking. The sad thing I see is, there is sufficient evidence at this point in time to effectively deal with the virus using a number of tools, but one-size-fits-all seems to be the flavor of the day, regardless of its total absurdity.

JWK

The Democrat Party Leadership, once an advocate for hard working American citizens and their families, is now their worst nightmare.

Why does one want to purposely catch Covid?

Socialized medicine is cool as long as it costs a ton of money… or something.

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Actually that’s less cost than I thought! :+1::+1::+1: