Tampa General: great success with COVID-19 treatment, reduces hospital stays

By telling me how a Hospital ICU ward is like a McDonalds

I didn’t say it is. Being in ICU for COVID without a vaccination is no worse than being in an ICU for any other reason that could have been prevented or diminished. Such as being morbidly obese and having a heart attack. Morally of course.

There have never been enough beds. That’s why triage was invented.

The point is that Covid patients are taking up more and more space in the ICU’s to the detriment of all other people.

Being on the ICU for Covid is pretty preventable these days with vaccination.

Because of lack of vaccination and pushback against the most modest of public health measures we are seeing a situation where an alarming number of hospitals in Florida are up against the wall with 36 - 48 hours worth of oxygen left and are scrambling to get some more.

This could have all been avoided.

Thankfully, Gov. DeSantis has taken the lead, given the finger to our Fifth Column media, and has opened antibody treatment sites throughout the state.

See: Gov. DeSantis: Monoclonal antibody site to open at Tropicana Field

August 19, 2021

“The governor said the St. Pete-based site will open later this week along with 15-20 others throughout the state.”

Also See: Use of Antibody Treatment Increases as COVID-19 Cases Climb

August 2, 2021

”Scientists now say they’ve proved monoclonal antibodies can help keep some COVID-19 sufferers from becoming hospitalized.

“This is a game-changer,” said principal investigator at Baylor Scott & White Research Institute Dr. Robert Gottlieb, “But a lot of people still don’t know about it.”

Maybe if our fear mongering, handwringing mainstream media, would stop with the 24/7 reporting of new cases ___ which really is insignificant as compared to the actual death rate across the country due to Covid ___ more people would find out there finally is a “game changer” in fighting the Covid virus…

JWK

Make no mistake. There is now both domestic and foreign blood on the hands of all those who voted for the Biden/Harris ticket.

All other people are taking up ICU space to the detriment of COVID patients.

it doesn’t seem to be helping all that much.

There is a possible imminent collapse of the system in Florida right now.

94% of the ICU space is used up.

59 Hospitals reporting expectation of critical staffing shortages by the end of the week.

68 Hospitals are 2 days or under away from being out of oxygen.

The seven day average is over 20,000 cases a day.

It is sad that this was all avoidable.

My goodness, you certainly are quite adept at painting a picture of gloom and doom, in spite of Gov. DeSantis’ antibody treatment policy beginning to take hold which is referred to as a “potential life-saver”.

See Florida COVID cases hit daily record high of more than 26,000

Of course, record highs of covid are occurring . . . the covid vaccine is not preventing the fully vaccinated from being re-infected with the virus which is showing up in daily covid cases being counted. But the good news is, as reported in the above article,

Statewide, more than 10,000 people have received the “antibody cocktail” at treatment centers that have been opened across the state since Aug. 12, said a spokesperson for the Florida Department of Health.

Doctors described the therapy as a potential life-saver.

Dr. Kitonga Kiminyo, a Boynton Beach infectious disease specialist, said his patients have said they felt markedly better after receiving the treatment, which is available either as an infusion or as a series of four shots.

“It’s a free, single outpatient treatment that keeps high-risk patients from being hospitalized and suffering complications like death,” he said.

Had the same amount of attention been paid from the beginning, on various available treatments for the virus, and the importance of natural immunity, as given to promoting a somewhat effective vaccine, we probably would not be in the mess we are today.

In any event, it is not too late to start promoting effective treatments and the importance of natural immunity along with the covid vaccine.

JWK

Make no mistake. There is now both domestic and foreign blood on the hands of all those who voted for the Biden/Harris ticket.

It is using a squirt gun to put out a fire.

Well, Jezcoe, I must thank you for your candor, although in a roundabout way, confirming the narrow focus on fighting covid with a vaccine found to create asymptomatic covid carriers and breakthrough cases, has helped to create a “fire”.

Fortunately, Gov. DeSantis’ policy to open a number of antibody treatment centers around the State is helping to put that fire out . . . 10,000 people have already been treated and saved!

JWK

Make no mistake. There is now both domestic and foreign blood on the hands of all those who voted for the Biden/Harris ticket.

They don’t. The problem is the mask free and unvaccinated person who has covid but doesn’t realize it or just doesn’t care about others.

Are you also talking about those fully vaccinated, symptom free, and are now transmitting the virus?

Breakthrough cases count for a large number of the rise in cases, e.g., in Massachusetts we find “More than 3,000 fully vaccinated people in Massachusetts tested positive for the coronavirus last week, a daily average of nearly 450 people in the Bay State as breakthrough infections keep rising amid the delta variant.” LINK

One thing for certain, NYC’s one size fits all __ No Vax, No Service __ is not only absurd, but destructive to the general welfare of the community.

JWK

The Democrat Party Leadership, once an advocate for hard working American citizens and their families, is now their worst nightmare.

They should wear masks. And while those with breakthrough infections may have similar viral loads to infected non-vaccinated people, with milder symptoms and a shorter infectious period they are still less likely to transmit it then the vaccinated.

This isn’t destructive to the general welfare, this is helpful for the general welfare. The more people that are vaccinated the slower the spread. If it takes denying them a trip to TGI Fridays to strong arm them into getting the vaccine, I’m all for it.

When did that change? There was a point in time when you supported the Democratic Party?

The debate is over: natural immunity proven far better than the covid jab.

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See ‘This Ends The Debate’ – Israeli Study Shows Natural Immunity 13x More Effective Than Vaccines At Stopping Delta

The new analysis relies on the database of Maccabi Healthcare Services, which enrols about 2.5 million Israelis. The study, led by Tal Patalon and Sivan Gazit at KSM, the system’s research and innovation arm, found in two analyses that people who were vaccinated in January and February were, in June, July, and the first half of August, six to 13 times more likely to get infected than unvaccinated people who were previously infected with the coronavirus.

The information at the link goes on to point out that in one analysis, comparing more than 32,000 people in the health system, “the risk of developing symptomatic COVID-19 was 27 times higher among the vaccinated, and the risk of hospitalization was eight times higher.”

This, of course, confirms that NYC’s one size fits all __ No Vax, No Service __ is not only absurd, but ignores the science, and actually encourages the fully vaccinated, who are symptom free and can transmit the virus, to enjoy public accommodations and freely spread the virus.

JWK

The Democrat Party Leadership, once an advocate for hard working American citizens and their families, is now their worst nightmare.

What does it say about natural immunity AND Covid vaccine?

I suggest you read the article. ‘This Ends The Debate’ – Israeli Study Shows Natural Immunity 13x More Effective Than Vaccines At Stopping Delta

JWK

Let us not forget. There is now both domestic and foreign blood on the hands of all those who voted for the Biden/Harris ticket.

I have to ask… why link to a Nigerian newspaper instead of the actual study?

Good question. Why must you ask?

:roll_eyes:

JWK

Let us never forget. There is now both domestic and foreign blood on the hands of all those who voted for the Biden/Harris ticket.

Hmmmm… I guess the answer is not forthcoming.

The answer is that the actual study does not say what people are saying it says.

Is that so? Seems to me everyone’s takeaway from the Israeli study is that Mother Nature’s natural immunity is far better than the vaccine.

Of course, this is not to suggest that the vaccine does not have a role in fighting the covid pandemic. But the Israeli study does confirm how idiotic NYC’s one size fits all __ No Vax, No Service is.

Not only is NYC’s mandate absurd and tyrannical, but it ignores the science, and actually encourages the fully vaccinated, who are symptom free but infected and spreading the virus, to go about and enjoy public accommodations and spread the virus, while those who have natural immunity and are virus free, are discriminated against by government and prohibited from going about their daily activities.

This is not only freaken insane, it is a direct assault on the inalienable rights of mankind which our system of government has a priority to protect.

Unfortunately, and to make matters worse than about sixty years ago and before, tyrannical judges and Justices have now taken it upon themselves to give the finger to the defined and limited powers delegated to our federal government by the people, and have knowingly and willingly used their office of public trust to impose their personal feelings of social justice, fairness and reasonableness as the rule of law, and to hell with the Constitution.
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Keep in mind we have been amply warned about allowing the above to occur:

“When a free people submit to oppressive acts, passed in violation of their constitution, for a single day, they have thrown down the palladium of their liberty. Submit to despotism for an hour and you concede the principle. John Adams said, in 1775, Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud. It is the only thing a people determined to be free can do. Republics have often failed, and have been succeeded by the most revolting despotisms; and always it was the voice of timidity, cowardice, or false leaders counseling submission, that led to the final downfall of freedom. It was the cowardice and treachery of the Senate of Rome that allowed the usurper to gain power, inch by inch, to overthrow the Republic. The history of the downfall of Republics is the same in all ages. The first inch that is yielded to despotism __ the first blow, dealt at the Constitution, that is not resisted is the beginning of the end of the nation’s ruin.” ___ The Old Guard, a monthly journal devoted to the principles of 1776 and 1787.

Until a few of these scoundrels are severely punished, and made to pay for their notoriously evil doings, things will only get worse, and the United States of America will look more and more like the tyrannical governments of Cuba, China, Venezuela, etc.

JWK

“The public welfare demands that constitutional cases must be decided according to the terms of the Constitution itself, and not according to judges’ views of fairness, reasonableness, or justice.” – Justice Hugo L. Black ( U.S. Supreme Court Justice, 1886 - 1971) Source: Lecture, Columbia University, 1968