Strategy - TICTI - Test, Isolate, Contact Trace, Isolate

[WuWei]

@tnt

and as pointed out, you are passing on the disease before you show symptoms. Sometimes for as much as 2 weeks.

So what are you going to do with the asymptomatic positives?

You think we have a good handle on that data from influenza?

[WuWei]

@tnt

@WuWei

So you what do you do with the asymptomatic positives?

They have to be isolated or else they are infecting the population just like the symptomatic positives.

Ok, so we’re going to keep the lock down going until we test everybody and they all test negative?

[Auto129]

@WuWei

How long are we going to take to test the asymptomatic or pre-symptomatic? What are we going to isolate and contact trace them as well?

Current asymptomatic carriers should have their cases burn out while they’re home for a few weeks during the shutdown. The essential workers they come in contact with should protect themselves with PPE, essential businesses should sanitize everything regularly, and all public spaces should be social distanced.

If most people take those precautions, contact tracing the visibly symptomatic people will be significantly easier, and testing resources can be directed at all the suspected asymptomatic people.

If we stay shut down like this long enough, contact tracing can catch up to the pandemic and we can start preventing new hotpots from emerging.

[WuWei]

@tnt

@WuWei

How are you going to contract trace the asymptomatic? From birth?

Right - now you are getting it.

This is gonna be tough stuff and we need a solid plan and real leadership.

Yes, if someone is an asympotatic positive, you treat them exactly the same as a sympoatic positive.

This could be changed if we learn through further research that symptomatic carries are not contagious, or as contagious. But I don’t think we know that right now.

Getting what?

The lock down continues until everyone tests negative?

[WuWei]

@tnt

Wow.

That’s an insulting and sexist reply to an honored guest.

Insulting?

[WuWei]

@LucyLou

There’s this thing called Google that will answer this for you.

@tnt

Wow.

That’s an insulting and sexist reply to an honored guest.

Begets begets.

[tnt]

@WuWei

Ok, so how does testing address that? I think I already addressed it.

Identifying those that put others at risk and isolating them as soon as possible to limit the spread.

[WuWei]

Are you a woman?

Oh look, sidekicks!

All male?

[tnt]

@WuWei

So what are you going to do with the asymptomatic positives?

You think we have a good handle on that data from influenza?

Isolate them.

[tnt]

@WuWei

Ok, so we’re going to keep the lock down going until we test everybody and they all test negative?

No.

We do what SK did - anyone is sick, the get tested. If they are positive, they isolate and we Test ALL their contacts. Anyone in that group is positive - symptomatic or not - gets isolated, and so on and so on.

Take everyone you can prove is contagious out of the population ASAP.

[conan]

Don’t they still have virus even if they’re showing no symptoms?

[WuWei]

@Auto129

@WuWei

How long are we going to take to test the asymptomatic or pre-symptomatic? What are we going to isolate and contact trace them as well?

Current asymptomatic carriers should have their cases burn out while they’re home for a few weeks during the shutdown. The essential workers they come in contact with should protect themselves with PPE, essential businesses should sanitize everything regularly, and all public spaces should be social distanced.

If most people take those precautions, contact tracing the visibly symptomatic people will be significantly easier, and testing resources can be directed at all the suspected asymptomatic people.

If we stay shut down like this long enough, contact tracing can catch up to the pandemic and we can start preventing new hotpots from emerging.

If they are asymptomatic, what date do you use to terminate the trace?

So all stay locked down until they test negative?

[tnt]

@WuWei

Getting what?

The lock down continues until everyone tests negative?

No.

The lock downs last until new cases are zero or approach zero. Then you start the testing and tracing. Then you can keep up with it.

[tnt]

So a snarky remark deserves a sexist comeback.

Got it. Jesus must be proud.

[WuWei]

@tnt

@WuWei

Ok, so how does testing address that? I think I already addressed it.

Identifying those that put others at risk and isolating them as soon as possible to limit the spread.

With testing? Nobody gets out of lock down until they test negative?

Question: Are essential workers dropping like flies?

[tnt]

@WuWei

If they are asymptomatic, what date do you use to terminate the trace?

So all stay locked down until they test negative?

correct. They isolate until they are negative.

[WuWei]

@tnt

@WuWei

So what are you going to do with the asymptomatic positives?

You think we have a good handle on that data from influenza?

Isolate them.

So no unlocking with out a negative test? How long you think that’s going to take?

[WuWei]

@tnt

@WuWei

So what are you going to do with the asymptomatic positives?

You think we have a good handle on that data from influenza?

Isolate them.

Aren’t they already isolated?

[tnt]

@WuWei

With testing? Nobody gets out of lock down until they test negative?

Question: Are essential workers dropping like flies?

Correct to your first.

I don’t know the real data to the second. I only know anedotes from my town and NYC reports. It sounds bad. Lots and lots of stories about doctors admitting multiple associates. But I don’t know the real data.

[WuWei]

@tnt

@WuWei

Ok, so we’re going to keep the lock down going until we test everybody and they all test negative?

No.

We do what SK did - anyone is sick, the get tested. If they are positive, they isolate and we Test ALL their contacts. Anyone in that group is positive - symptomatic or not - gets isolated, and so on and so on.

Take everyone you can prove is contagious out of the population ASAP.

If anyone is sick, then you test them. Got it.

If they are asymptomatic, how are they sick?