Stealing election funding

Politics
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I don’t know about stealing elections, but I do know who is stealing election FUNDING…the voting machine companies…

Just voted, and this is now the third system we’ve had in the last three elections.

The 1st was the old mechanical system, which I can see should be replaced. Machines wear out, and it did seem less secure (though I don’t truly know how any of these work…just my impressions as a voter.) Checked in from paper rolls…they’ve been using this system for the 25 years we’ve lived here. Retired it after 2018 I think.

The second was a goofy system where we filled out paper in specially designed portable cubbies, then used a specially designed folder to hold the paper in until we fed it into the specially designed machine…seemed cumbersome, but sure did have a lot of things for the election machine company to sell us…cubbies, folders, machines…

Today was the tour de force! You check in on specially designed tablets, which encoded your info onto an RFID card via a machine, and printed a recipt you signed.

Over to a new and specially designed cubby, where you put the RFID card in and voted on the screen. This resulted in a printed ballot from a specialized machine.

Then, over to the actual voting machine, in with the ballot, and your vote was cast.

So:
Tablets
Receipt printer
Receipt paper
RIDF card
RIDF imprinter
Voting cubby
Voting machine
Ballot printer
Ballot paper
Ballot counting machine.

They should have added the confidentiality folders…

It’s a long and tedious process. All the volunteers are on the older side and don’t understand tablets, the printers, or the system in general. It was a real mess.

But whomever sold them this system to replace the brand new system last election is making a mint I’m sure.

/end rant

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paper ballots no mail-ins same day voting

(of course exception for those with health issues//military)

problem solved youre welcome

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We will get back to this.

The people are just not ready yet.

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Hand marked paper ballots should be the norm.

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I asked why was this system so complicated, and the answer was, people are concerned about security.

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Nothing wrong with being secure but a hand filled out paper ballot with a simple copy and receipt is just as secure.

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Wait… now voting machines are a problem? Hmmm, when have we heard this before…

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No mail in ballots except for medical reasons or you’re out of the country. Same day voting. Present your ID. Vote on a paper ballot…locally. By doing it this way, fraud is potentially minimized. If one local is fraudulent…it would tend to be more obvious, like what happened in Antrim County, Michigan. It also is limited to that local and not an entire state. All of us should be united in demanding as much of a fraud free election as possible and MACHINES are NOT THE ANSWER!

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Why does same day matter?

Aren’t paper ballots easy to fraudulently copy and slip into the pile? Isn’t that what the claims were re: 2020 and suitcases full of ballots? I realize that never happened, but I bellieveyou still believe it did. Isn’t the system you are advocating for open to the abuses you think happened in 2020?

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What I think is happening is, voting machine companies see the hysteria generated by the 2020 ■■■■■■■■ fraud claims and are capitalizing by getting counties and states to rehaul their systems needlessly.

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But there were so many claims - wrong as they were - that paper ballots were slipped in and the mules were dropping off fraudulent paper ballots…how can we use them if so many claimed they were part of the problem?

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The answer once again rests with proven technology of the past.

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2016, 2004, 2000, etc… :wink:

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It reduces the possibility for fraud.

The election is supposed to be monitored, thereby reducing that possibility. One person, one vote. No mules.

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Receipts and in person except for absentee. You know exactly like I wrote.

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I responded to this:

I see nothing there about in person.

What good is a receipt? It proves to you that you voted, but how would they help officials prove every vote was legit?

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Yea I was talking about ballot drop off boxes, because they give copies and receipts.:roll_eyes:

That is what the copy is for.

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??

What good is you having a copy and a receipt to the officials trying to verify votes?

In our state mail in ballots are unique to the voter. IOW, it’s the same as voting in person. I don’t think we do drop boxes now but we did have early voting this year.

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We have where you sign in on a tablet, given a reusable card that the poll worker puts into the machine (similar to a credit card reader), the screen on the machine displays a ballot, you enter your choices, it displays your votes and asks if you wish to cast, it then prints a hard copy which stays with the machine and done. Have used them for several elections. Also each machine is setup in a cardboard cubicle. Easy peasy

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So there must be something about the reusable credit card thing that adds security, because our new ‘more secure’ system is the same, except we have to tke the paper ballot out of our cubicle and over to the vote counting machine and feed it in ourselves, which seems silly to me.