Statues - What is to be Tolerated or Repressed?

[WuWei]

@Supreme_War_Pig

@WuWei

@Supreme_War_Pig

@WuWei

@Supreme_War_Pig

If this the case, first rule: no Confederates.

None at all?

None, but I would be interested to read your counter point.

How about Ben and Henry McCulloch? Can we put up/leave statues to them in Texas?

They already tore down Albert Pike’s in Virginia on Juneteenth last year.

That is why, after consideration, I say “no Confederates”.

To avoid getting bogged down in exceptions and so forth. It is better to just draw a bright line.

Ben McCulloch, especially, did as much as anybody to settle Texas. Pike defended Indians getting screwed over by the government.

[Supreme_War_Pig]

@TheRedComet

What about Longstreet?

Same. Without a bright line, we will just fight over exceptions and exclusions.

And I don’t say this lightly, for I do admire both Longstreet and Lee

[Supreme_War_Pig]

@WuWei

@Supreme_War_Pig

@WuWei

@Supreme_War_Pig

@WuWei

@Supreme_War_Pig

If this the case, first rule: no Confederates.

None at all?

None, but I would be interested to read your counter point.

How about Ben and Henry McCulloch? Can we put up/leave statues to them in Texas?

They already tore down Albert Pike’s in Virginia on Juneteenth last year.

That is why, after consideration, I say “no Confederates”.

To avoid getting bogged down in exceptions and so forth. It is better to just draw a bright line.

Ben McCulloch, especially, did as much as anybody to settle Texas. Pike defended Indians getting screwed over by the government.

Oh well. No Confederates.

[WuWei]

@Supreme_War_Pig

@TheRedComet

What about Longstreet?

Same. Without a bright line, we will just fight over exceptions and exclusions.

And I don’t say this lightly, for I do admire both Longstreet and Lee

Irredeemable sin?

[Supreme_War_Pig]

@WuWei

@Supreme_War_Pig

@TheRedComet

What about Longstreet?

Same. Without a bright line, we will just fight over exceptions and exclusions.

And I don’t say this lightly, for I do admire both Longstreet and Lee

Irredeemable sin?

Well, I suppose that is between them and God.

Nevertheless, no public veneration to men who fought to uphold a perfidious, cruel, and brutal regime.

[WuWei]

@Supreme_War_Pig

Well, I suppose that is between them and God.

Societal sin.

[WuWei]

@Supreme_War_Pig

Nevertheless, no public veneration to men who fought to uphold a perfidious, cruel, and brutal regime.

That covers a lot of ground.

[Supreme_War_Pig]

@WuWei

@Supreme_War_Pig

Nevertheless, no public veneration to men who fought to uphold a perfidious, cruel, and brutal regime.

That covers a lot of ground.

Not really. No Confederates is quite precise.

[WuWei]

@Supreme_War_Pig

@WuWei

@Supreme_War_Pig

Nevertheless, no public veneration to men who fought to uphold a perfidious, cruel, and brutal regime.

That covers a lot of ground.

Not really. No Confederates is quite precise.

uphold a perfidious, cruel, and brutal regime.

[Supreme_War_Pig]

@WuWei

@Supreme_War_Pig

@WuWei

@Supreme_War_Pig

Nevertheless, no public veneration to men who fought to uphold a perfidious, cruel, and brutal regime.

That covers a lot of ground.

Not really. No Confederates is quite precise.

uphold a perfidious, cruel, and brutal regime.

Well, I said what I said.

[Smyrna]

@TheRedComet

Trayvon is a little more complicated, but from the data it seems like he took what was a fight into the lethal zone by bashing Zimmerman’s head into the pavement. Assuming that is the exact circumstance of how it played out, Zim was right to shoot him.

Zim got out of his car with a gun, after contacting the authorities who were on their way and asked him to remain in his car and stay out of it. Zim didn’t do that though. He disobeyed and chose to hunt Trayvon down with a gun. He was the aggressor…period. If someone hunted you down with a gun and you don’t have one, would you defend yourself? IMO that was murder pure and simple.

[Supreme_War_Pig]

@Smyrna

@TheRedComet

Trayvon is a little more complicated, but from the data it seems like he took what was a fight into the lethal zone by bashing Zimmerman’s head into the pavement. Assuming that is the exact circumstance of how it played out, Zim was right to shoot him.

Zim got out of his car with a gun, after contacting the authorities who were on their way and asked him to remain in his car and stay out of it. Zim didn’t do that though. He disobeyed and chose to hunt Trayvon down with a gun. He was the aggressor…period. If someone hunted you down with a gun and you don’t have one, would you defend yourself? IMO that was murder pure and simple.

I agree. Zimmerman initiated the fight.

[WuWei]

@Supreme_War_Pig

@WuWei

@Supreme_War_Pig

@WuWei

@Supreme_War_Pig

Nevertheless, no public veneration to men who fought to uphold a perfidious, cruel, and brutal regime.

That covers a lot of ground.

Not really. No Confederates is quite precise.

uphold a perfidious, cruel, and brutal regime.

Well, I said what I said.

A lot of ground.

[zantax]

Don’t we have to take Byrds name off just about everything in West Virginia as well?

[Sknyluv]

@WuWei

@Sknyluv

@WuWei

3. Jbiden (when the time comes)?
4. George Floyd (already up)?
5. Michael Brown (where it really all started)?
6. Trayvon Martin?

For these examples in particular, what would be your objection? If you have an objection.

Where do you stand on them?

For these examples, I don’t have a problem with them.

[TheRedComet]

Even Michael brown?

[Sknyluv]

@TheRedComet

Even Michael brown?

Even Mr Brown. Yes.

[TheRedComet]

Even after it came out what transpired?

He tried to take an officers firearm. Attempting to take a firearm from anyone is going to get you shot immediately. With extreme violence.

The only reason someone tries to take a firearm from another person is to use it on said person.

[WuWei]

@Sknyluv

@WuWei

@Sknyluv

@WuWei

3. Jbiden (when the time comes)?
4. George Floyd (already up)?
5. Michael Brown (where it really all started)?
6. Trayvon Martin?

For these examples in particular, what would be your objection? If you have an objection.

Where do you stand on them?

For these examples, I don’t have a problem with them.

Racist
Thug
Thug
Not killed by a white man

[RayStark]

@Bigjohn

How about the one on a corner in Winslow Arizona?

It’s such a fine sight to see.