Guvnah
July 11, 2020, 3:27pm
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And they are.
And that type of lawyer is often into big hype and getting their names splattered in as many places as they can. And my gut feel is that they did the gun show as a stunt. And given their awkward handling of the guns in the original pics and vids, they wouldn’t have used them even if the protesters had continued to approach. And all the post-event press is just what they want. Now it’s free advertising. A court trial – and as much media coverage of it as possible – would be the best thing for their purposes.
All the same, manipulative greasy ambulance chasers have as much right to keep and bear arms and defend themselves as anyone else.
Just saying.
WuWei
July 11, 2020, 3:29pm
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SpacemanSpiff:
We need to get ALL the info on this. Were the protesters actually ON their property for one thing. I’d like to hear from other residents. If the protesters were on their property then I’d imagine they walked on others as well. We’ll see.
If they were out on the public street then we have a problem. My house sits maybe 30-40 feet off my street. If protesters were walking down it I can’t just go out into my front yard and start pointing Lady Mossberg at them.
No we don’t. All we need to know is that the homeowners were on their property and no rounds were fired.
Case closed.
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@Guvnah I don’t disagree with any of that
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WuWei
July 11, 2020, 3:30pm
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JayJay:
bigtwnvin:
JayJay:
I hate to tell you this, but the current occupant of the White House has several times come out in favor of civil asset forfeiture.
So this will continue unabated under Trump as well.
Nice try, the Prez’ stance on “civil asset forfeiture” is in cases of organized crime and drug kingpins.
Law abiding citizens protecting their property against a lawless mob? Hope the ACLU sides with the homeowners, this could be entertaining in a federal lawsuit filed on their behalf.
No it’s not.
That’s what civil asset forfeiture was originally for, but it has expanded WAY past that and onto any type of suspected criminal activity even before a crime has been charged.
Obama reined in this practice because it was getting abused. Trump reversed that, and laughed about it on TV with a bunch of cops.
I agree with your characterization of the practice.
Obama didn’t rein in ■■■■■
WuWei:
hindsight:
I hate to tell you this but it’s 2020, not the days of the wild west.
If I am understanding this correctly, that is the front entrance to their gated community? Threatening the use of lethal force over a damaged gate is hard to justify in todays world. If it was a damaged front door to their house, I understand. Protesters bait people into overreacting… and these two morons took the bait.
You’ve decided.
They were baited and got hooked. It’s as simple as that. Will they be able to survive without their ARs? Stay tuned.
I still hope they sue the city and the DA. At a minimum it will showcase the DA’s agenda?
JayJay
July 11, 2020, 3:31pm
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Ok he tried to. It may have been ineffectual but he did put curbs in place that Trump eliminated.
WuWei
July 11, 2020, 3:31pm
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I agree with everything but this. It doesn’t take much to scare the ■■■■ out of people like that.
Is it against Missouri law to stand on your property with a legally owned firearm? The trespassing mob notwithstanding, is “brandishing” a crime?
WuWei
July 11, 2020, 3:34pm
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It won’t make any difference.
I can tell you this, given what I read about how this happened, I would have presented the weapon as well. Of course I would have done it correctly…
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WuWei
July 11, 2020, 3:35pm
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You are dismissing the destruction of the gate.
Here warrant give up gun!
They’re gonna have to convince a jury (if this goes to trial) that they indeed had a very legitimate reason to feel threatened. If you point a gun at someone, whether on your own property or not, it’s called menacing.
Was it their own gate or the gate of the entrance of the gated community?
WuWei
July 11, 2020, 3:39pm
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SpacemanSpiff:
They’re gonna have to convince a jury (if this goes to trial) that they indeed had a very legitimate reason to feel threatened. If you point a gun at someone, whether on your own property or not, it’s called menacing.
Picture of the gate. What else?
WuWei
July 11, 2020, 3:40pm
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Why do you think that would matter?
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When a group of people break down a wrought iron gate to gain access to posted private property, that’s called rioting.
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