Someone please tell me - how is a wall going to deter this

[altair1013]

@NJBob

A lot of them pay taxes too, so $70,000 sounds far fetched.

Not according to the center for immigration studies.

According to the Center for Immigration Studies (CIS), the cost of illegal immigration is rising as the border surge reaches its highest level since 2011.

In a report published Wednesday, the organization said the cost to taxpayers is around $70,000 per illegal immigrant, which is about seven times more than the cost of deportation.

[WorldWatcher]

@altair1013

@NJBob

A lot of them pay taxes too, so $70,000 sounds far fetched.

Not according to the center for immigration studies.

According to the Center for Immigration Studies (CIS), the cost of illegal immigration is rising as the border surge reaches its highest level since 2011.

In a report published Wednesday, the organization said the cost to taxpayers is around $70,000 per illegal immigrant, which is about seven times more than the cost of deportation.

https://www.oann.com/each-illegal-immigrant-costs-70k-according-to-center-for-immigration-studies-report/

Thought it was odd there was no link.

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[madasheck]

@altair1013

@NJBob

A lot of them pay taxes too, so $70,000 sounds far fetched.

Not according to the center for immigration studies.

According to the Center for Immigration Studies (CIS), the cost of illegal immigration is rising as the border surge reaches its highest level since 2011.

In a report published Wednesday, the organization said the cost to taxpayers is around $70,000 per illegal immigrant, which is about seven times more than the cost of deportation.

The CIS is an anti-immigration hate group associated with white nationalists. Got another source?

Founded in 1985 by John Tanton, the Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) has gone on to become the go-to think tank for the anti-immigrant movement with its reports and staffers often cited by media and anti-immigrant politicians. CIS’s much-touted tagline is “low immigration, pro-immigrant,” but the organization has a decades-long history of circulating racist writers, while also associating with white nationalists.

[altair1013]

@WorldWatcher

Thought it was odd there was no link.

See what you can find.

[WorldWatcher]

@altair1013

I found a source already. You don’t like it. I’m not going to do all of the work. It’s your turn.

When quoting an article it’s normally good form (and I believe required by the rules) to source that quote.

Just FYI…

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[altair1013]

@madasheck

The CIS is an anti-immigration hate group associated with white nationalists. Got another source?

Can you provide a link to support this accusation?

[Phaedrus]

@Guvnah

I just think we can make that foot traffic useless to MOST of the foot immigrants by making their existence here impossible – at a far less expensive cost than building a physical wall.

And it addresses the existing problem of the millions of illegal immigrants already here, which a wall does not.

I’m as liberal as they come on most issues, but I see NO problem with requiring government-issued identification to work, vote, drive, etc.

[Samm]

@WorldWatcher

Surveillance and interception.

Motion detectors, drones, FLIR monitoring. Even a lot of that can be automated with remote sensors combined with computer evaluation eliminating false positives for animals with algorithms that recognize human beings for ground motion.

Those would all be excellent supplements to a formidable wall/fence barrier. It is far easier for those mechanisms to effectively deal with illegal entries when there are far fewer to deal with.

[Samm]

@mobulis

@Samm

Is your front door locked? Why?

No its not.

Why?

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[Samm]

@NJBob

Being opposed to the wall isn’t the same as being opposed to border security. Why do you pretend it is?

I’m not. But the wall is the only way to reduce the number of illegal entries and therefore, the number of illegals in custody all of which are a major drain on border security resources.

[Samm]

@CaughtInTheMiddle

@NJBob

Being opposed to the wall isn’t the same as being opposed to border security. Why do you pretend it is?

It’s what Fox News says.

Your simplistic leftist talking points are boorish.

[Rurudyne]

Again, something doesn’t have to be 100% effective to be worth doing.

Although I’m open to shutting down all of the welfare state because it isn’t 100% effective (normally because there’s no delegated power given the federal for it is enough for me though).

[Samm]

@CaughtInTheMiddle

stock market tanking. debt exploding. republicans haven’t heard of ladders and drones.

vote these idiots out of government.

How many illegals are using ladders and drones to get over the pathetic outdated wall at San Diego?

[Rurudyne]

Speaking of ladders, what about that bloke starting a go-fund-me to raise money to buy ladders to help illegal aliens?

[Samm]

@CaughtInTheMiddle

we’re trying to fix our border security issue the same way cities in MESOPOTAMIA did. you know, 2900 years ago.

here’s something else that happened during that era…

• Greeks adopt alphabetic writing.

Why do you persist on comparing illegal incursions by destitute migants seeking a better life with military invasions bent on conquering a country?

[Samm]

@Absolution

@POPCORN

Don’t be silly. That ladder doesn’t reach the top of that wall. It’s impenetrable!

That’s not the border wall, that’s the wall around Pelosi’s gated community.

[Rurudyne]

I’m sure that wall has at least had recent repainting.

[Samm]

@NJBob

Seriously, thinking a 3rd century technology is the best way to solve a 21st century problem is naive at best, especially considering the 21st century technology we have available.

Being opposed to the wall doesn’t mean being opposed to border security.

You are right, but it does mean that you are opposed to 90% of it. That is the estimated effectiveness of the wall at San Diego. And it would probably be much higher there if the wall extended farther east.

[Samm]

@NJBob

@BlueTex

@NJBob

Seriously, thinking a 3rd century technology is the best way to solve a 21st century problem is naive at best, especially considering the 21st century technology we have available.

Being opposed to the wall doesn’t mean being opposed to border security.

The most effective way to deal with illegal immigration is to revise our immigration and asylum laws and make it very hard for one to work in the US without authorization…

You’re right, but there doesn’t seem to be any desire to solve the root cause of the problem. The wall only addresses a symptom.

The problem is in the counties of origin of the migrants. We have no authority or means to solve their problems.

[biggestal99]

That’s why they settle in Jersey.

Cash.

Allan