Must be.
your values and your understanding of slavery is not Godâs. Even the Jews were slaves to the Egyptians and it was for their own protection. Only when the Egyptians mistreated them did all hell break loose.
At some point, as you learn more and more, you will have to concede that nature obeys the flying spaghetti monster. He told me how cells gained a mitochondria.
Even the blacks were slaves for their own protection according to your line of reasoning. So slavery is only bad when you mistreat them? Hell when pharoah was about to give in, god hardened his heart. Since the bible never universally abolished slavery, your understanding of slavery is not godâs
God doesnât condone divorce, He regulated it. Same with polygamy. Christ made that clear in His disputes with the Rabbis, proving from the Old Testament Godâs standard was no divorce (except for adultery) and one wife.
Same with slavery, He regulated it because in those days it was part of the economic system and there was no doing away with it.
Lol you are spinning now. Dr. Pepper bottles say nothing on slavery and it is not looked at for moral guidance, so this is a non sequitor. The bible curses descendants of a certain family (which is where a lot of the biblical justification for the enslavement of blacks). The bible permits and condones slavery, Jesus condones slavery and orders them to obey their earthly masters. You are so desperate to defend something i think you know is morally reprehensive because you have enslaved yourself to a centuries old book.
An economic system based on conquest and ownership of your captives. So according to you if you were in the south, you would have no qualms about slavery.
Jesus didnât condone slavery, but He did use the concept to teach how sinners are slaves and He could free them:
34 Jesus answered them, "Most assuredly, I say to you, whoever commits sin is a slave of sin.
35 "And a slave does not abide in the house forever, but a son abides forever.
36 "Therefore if the Son makes you free, you shall be free indeed.
(Jn. 8:34-36 NKJ)
He is talking about being a slave to SIN. He said slaves obey your earthly masters as you would obey me.
Many Southerners didnât fight for slavery, they fought for states rights. General Lee was one of those men.
Slavery was ended by Christians. We fought a civil war to end it.
It was Democrats who promoted slavery and Jim Crow segregationist even after the civil war. In fact the voted against civil rights right up until the late 1950âs. Then they began to reinvent it, destroying the Black family and killing black babies via Government programs that are made to see like assistance to blacks.
If it werenât for abortion, Blacks would be the second biggest minority wielding lots of political power, far more than today.
So where in the bible does universal abolition come in?
States rights to own slaves.
Inferentially deducted:
So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. (Gen. 1:27 NKJ)
=All men are created Equal
=Men and Woman are Equal
No, states rights above Federal Government rights which covers a lot more than slavery.
Right, so homosexuality - being a longtime feature of human society - gets the death penalty. But slavery - totes cool as long as youâre nice to your property.
And most of the provisions you provide apply only to Hebrew slaves. Israelites were under no obligation to treat foreign slaves as such. The context of Exodus 21 is that of Hebrew servants, not foreign chattel.
Right. Oh wait.
Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. 45 You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. 46 You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly. Leviticus 25:44-46
This clearly distinguishes the different view between foreign chattel and Hebrew indentured servants. It puts to rest the absurd notion that the Bible doesnât âcondoneâ slavery. How the â â â â is it not condoning slavery when it says âYou mayâŚbuy slavesâŚYou can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and cam make them slaves for life.â
God has no problem condemning and punishing a whole list of long held features of society He deems evil, but with slavery heâs like, âOk guys, have at it, itâs kosher!â But itâs an evil system that he doesnât agree with. The lack of logical consistency is astounding.
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
Ya God sure works in mysterious ways
Mississippiâs article of secession:
In the momentous step which our State has taken of dissolving its connection with the government of which we so long formed a part, it is but just that we should declare the prominent reasons which have induced our course.
Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery-- the greatest material interest of the world.
Georgia:
The people of Georgia having dissolved their political connection with the Government of the United States of America, present to their confederates and the world the causes which have led to the separation. For the last ten years we have had numerous and serious causes of complaint against our non-slave-holding confederate States with reference to the subject of African slavery.
South Carolina:
The General Government, as the common agent, passed laws to carry into effect these stipulations of the States. For many years these laws were executed. But an increasing hostility on the part of the non-slaveholding States to the institution of slavery, has led to a disregard of their obligations, and the laws of the General Government have ceased to effect the objects of the Constitution.
Texas:
In all the non-slave-holding States, in violation of that good faith and comity which should exist between entirely distinct nations, the people have formed themselves into a great sectional party, now strong enough in numbers to control the affairs of each of those States, based upon an unnatural feeling of hostility to these Southern States and their beneficent and patriarchal system of African slavery, proclaiming the debasing doctrine of equality of all men, irrespective of race or color-- a doctrine at war with nature, in opposition to the experience of mankind, and in violation of the plainest revelations of Divine Law.
Yeah, not at all about slavery.
I donât defend modern manâs implementation of slavery. I donât defend ancient versions either but simply point out that ancient versions may have been symbiotic if both parties were decent human beings.
1)Only a few Southerners had slaves, therefore they fought for other reasons.
2)Never said slavery wasnât an issue. In fact, it was used to âillustrateâ state rights, the right of the state to have different laws.
So âconfirmation biasâ prevented you from seeing the whole picture.
But Iâm no expert on the civil war. Those who are say point to motives other than slave owning, as to why so many opted to fight for their âhomeâ against" âinvaders.â
