So why haven't the arbiters of racism denounced Darwin?

[Bomberfox]

@WildRose

The theory requires tens of thousands of random acts just to produce one protein.

Atomic theory and Germ theory have both been proven and neither relies on a set of conditions and random acts that are probabilistically all but impossible to see occurring all in the short span of time and organize themselves randomly into a single viable gene much less an entire chromosome.

Even something as simple as a prion is nothing but inert matter unless it finds itself in or attached the proper host and that host must either be alive or randomly be acquired by a living host.

Its not entirely random, there are predictable patterns with causal mechanisms involved. You do not know what a theory is.

[Bomberfox]

@Call_me_Ishmael

@Bomberfox

@WildRose

We get to abiogenesis because if the theory holds true that all living things arose from a single source it had to start there.

Its not necessary because evolution does not explain origins. Its not really just probability games, but a conclusion based on evidence. Theories are not just theories unless you want to say atomic theory or the germ theory of disease is just a theory. A cell absorbing another organelle like the mitochondria and reproducing future generations with that organelle is a good example.

in other words…

In otherwords my obtuse little friend, abiogenesis is a separate matter.

[Bomberfox]

@WildRose

Probably because God views us all as property to begin with.

You may one day get a brief opportunity to ask him in person on judgement day although I think you’ll certainly have bigger things to worry about.

Depending on which god, i may be worried about finding the iron charriot to ride into battle against him.

[Call_me_Ishmael]

@Bomberfox

In otherwords my obtuse little friend, abiogenesis is a separate matter.

it seems like abiogenesis is your man behind the curtain.

Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.

[Bomberfox]

@Call_me_Ishmael

@Bomberfox

In otherwords my obtuse little friend, abiogenesis is a separate matter.

it seems like abiogenesis is your man behind the curtain.

Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. - YouTube

Nope. It is a likely possibility of how life on earth came about, all with more natural evidence than the god of the gaps.

[ImRightYoureWrong]

It’s simple. If someone asks how abiogenesis works, just say that abiogenesis works in mysterious ways, abiogenesis is all powerful, and then point to an old book that says abiogenesis did it. It’s that simple!

[Call_me_Ishmael]

@Bomberfox

@Call_me_Ishmael

@Bomberfox

In otherwords my obtuse little friend, abiogenesis is a separate matter.

it seems like abiogenesis is your man behind the curtain.

Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. - YouTube

Nope. It is a likely possibility of how life on earth came about, all with more natural evidence than the god of the gaps.

At some point, as you learn more and more, you will have to concede that nature obeys God.

[ImRightYoureWrong]

@Bomberfox

The theory requires tens of thousands of random acts just to produce one protein.

You obviously haven’t read about leading abiogenesis theories outside of creationist/ID propaganda

[ImRightYoureWrong]

That was supposed to QUOTE WR

[Borgia]

To hold the flood waters in the air as water vapor, what would the temperature have to be?

[Borgia]

@WildRose

Conservation of mass and energy, and general relativity.

Even in a nuclear reaction energy is simply released, it isn’t created from nothing. Mass is not being destroyed, it is being converted into energy.

Mass and energy but require the other to exist for themselves to exist.

Who says the energy was no always there?

Also, are you certain the laws of physics apply to the singularity?

[BornAgainChristian]

@mbus

@Borgia_dude_dude

@BornAgainChristian

We know you aren’t fair in your criticism, that you ignore context and facts. God did not command slavery, He did command they be well treated.

Well that makes it all better. How just adding a commandment saying owning humans as property is wrong? Is that too difficult?

Such a commandment might have been spoken by Jesus but lost its way when his words words were transcribed, then translated from Aramaic to Greek to Latin to English (whatever the order) then edited by the Vatican in a series of Ecumenical Councils. Who knows what was left out and added in the process?

That’s not a legit Christian defense. I’d reconsider that, Scripture doesn’t lack important necessary information, every question can be answered directly, by implication or inference. When diligence is applied.

[Borgia]

@WildRose

Probably because God views us all as property to begin with.

Charming.

You may one day get a brief opportunity to ask him in person on judgement day although I think you’ll certainly have bigger things to worry about.

Well, we know the Christian God is impossible to exist. But if he did and I stand before him I’ll believe.

[Borgia]

@Bomberfox

@WildRose

Probably because God views us all as property to begin with.

You may one day get a brief opportunity to ask him in person on judgement day although I think you’ll certainly have bigger things to worry about.

Depending on which god, i may be worried about finding the iron charriot to ride into battle against him.

That’s a good one!

[BornAgainChristian]

@mobulis

@BornAgainChristian

Slavery existed, God made laws protecting the life and physical well being of slaves. He did NOT ordain slavery into existence.

In fact, it was the Gospel of Christ and the Teaching of Moses that inspired Christians to form the Republican party to fight the Democrat party and their pro slavery members.

Your reply is unhistorical, meaning without grounding in fact.

So why didn’t god say to stop slavery or at least that she didn’t like it.

The Bible does not condone slavery any more than it condones polygamy or divorce. Instead, it establishes humane limits for an existing, evil system. Slavery had long been a feature of human society. The Israelites were always to remember that they themselves had been the victims of this practice for an extended time (Gn 37:28, 36; Ex 1:8–14) as slaves in Egypt (Dt 5:15; 15:15; 16:12; 24:18, 22). Accordingly, Israelite slave owners were to treat their slaves in a fair and charitable manner. They were to be given a day of rest every week (Ex 20:10) and, as beings created in God’s image, were expected to attend religious festivals (Dt 12:12, 18; 16:11). Israelites who were slaves were to be treated with special benevolence, and to be released after six years (Ex 21:2; Dt 15:12) or in the Year of the Jubilee (Lv 25:40–41), whichever came first. Female slaves who became wives to their owners or owner’s sons were to be treated with all the respect and rights of a regular wife (Ex 21:8–11). When an Israelite’s term of slavery had ended, he was to be given a gift (Dt 15:13–14). If slaves were physically abused by their owners, they were to be granted immediate freedom (Ex 21:26–27) and, unlike animals, the killing of a slave constituted a crime (v. 20).
Through these measures the law of Moses made it clear that slaves were to be treated as persons with God-given rights and standing before God. Furthermore, slavery for Israelites was to be a temporary state, not a lifetime condition. The law of Moses laid the groundwork for the eventual demise of one of the most demeaning institutions in human society.

Cabal, T., Brand, C. O., Clendenen, E. R., Copan, P., Moreland, J. P., & Powell, D. (2007). The Apologetics Study Bible: Real Questions, Straight Answers, Stronger Faith (pp. 120–121). Nashville, TN: Holman Bible Publishers.

[mobulis]

@BornAgainChristian

The Bible does not condone slavery any more than it condones polygamy or divorce. Instead, it establishes humane limits for an existing, evil system. Slavery had long been a feature of human society. The Israelites were always to remember that they themselves had been the victims of this practice for an extended time (Gn 37:28, 36; Ex 1:8–14) as slaves in Egypt (Dt 5:15; 15:15; 16:12; 24:18, 22). Accordingly, Israelite slave owners were to treat their slaves in a fair and charitable manner. They were to be given a day of rest every week (Ex 20:10) and, as beings created in God’s image, were expected to attend religious festivals (Dt 12:12, 18; 16:11). Israelites who were slaves were to be treated with special benevolence, and to be released after six years (Ex 21:2; Dt 15:12) or in the Year of the Jubilee (Lv 25:40–41), whichever came first. Female slaves who became wives to their owners or owner’s sons were to be treated with all the respect and rights of a regular wife (Ex 21:8–11). When an Israelite’s term of slavery had ended, he was to be given a gift (Dt 15:13–14). If slaves were physically abused by their owners, they were to be granted immediate freedom (Ex 21:26–27) and, unlike animals, the killing of a slave constituted a crime (v. 20).
Through these measures the law of Moses made it clear that slaves were to be treated as persons with God-given rights and standing before God. Furthermore, slavery for Israelites was to be a temporary state, not a lifetime condition. The law of Moses laid the groundwork for the eventual demise of one of the most demeaning institutions in human society.

Cabal, T., Brand, C. O., Clendenen, E. R., Copan, P., Moreland, J. P., & Powell, D. (2007). The Apologetics Study Bible: Real Questions, Straight Answers, Stronger Faith (pp. 120–121). Nashville, TN: Holman Bible Publishers.

It condones it by the fact that it says NOTHING AGAINST IT.

[Call_me_Ishmael]

@mobulis

condones it by the fact that it says NOTHING AGAINST IT.

neither does the label of my Dr Pepper bottle. I guess it’s pro-slavery propaganda.

[ImRightYoureWrong]

Here we have Christians comparing GOD to a bottle of doctor pepper hahahahaha pathetic. SLAVERY. Seems like a pretty important thing, maybe even more important than coveting your neighbor. But, nope, meh it’s just slavery

[Borgia]

@Call_me_Ishmael

@mobulis

condones it by the fact that it says NOTHING AGAINST IT.

neither does the label of my Dr Pepper bottle. I guess it’s pro-slavery propaganda.

Weird that you go to your Dr Pepper bottle for moral guidance. You’re one weird dude!

[Borgia]

@ImRightYoureWrong

Here we have Christians comparing GOD to a bottle of doctor pepper hahahahaha pathetic. SLAVERY. Seems like a pretty important thing, maybe even more important than coveting your neighbor. But, nope, meh it’s just slavery

Yeah, I especially liked the argument that said commanding against murder didn’t solve murder so why bother commanding against slavery?

LoL. Then why have any commandments at all!