If you would show at least an ounce of good faith that you’d be willing to have this discussion without snapping back into your preconceived talking points, we could explain to you why it would be difficult for many to get an ID that would qualify under the SAVE Act.
For now, think of all the horror stories people have shared just trying to get a RealID, and a lot of states’ RealIDs won’t qualify (language in the SAVE Act notwithstanding).
And the reason it’s not as easy as you think is because the United States has never been a “show us your papers, citizen” kind of country.
Therefore our identification documents that ARE rather easy to get have never been required to have a rigorous paper trail to our citizenship status before.
Not true at all. We oppose poll taxes. Used to be, back in the day, Southern States used to literally charge folks to vote, along with literacy tests. Once implemented, voter participation by post CW blacks dropped from over 90 percent to less than 20 percent. SCOTUS actually upheld it in 1937, but the 24th amendment banned it.
Voter ID movements look to recreate that magic time when you can make voting just difficult enough that the people you would rather not vote, do not vote.
Which is why there is so much push back when Liberals literally agree with ID requirements but want free and easy to obtain ones. You see, that won’t stop many voters and that is the real intent, to stop voters from voting. All in the name of “voter integrity” and stopping “voter fraud”, which has never been a proven threat in any election.
The fact that more eligible folks will not be able to vote by a seismic margin than any credible risk of voter fraud is the point of it all. No matter all the vapors Conservatives seem to suffer every two years, especially when they are anticipating a generational ass kicking in November. If they can’t win the game, just change the rules.
Ok why don’t @you tell us what specific barriers, and which specific groups face said barriers. I ask because I cannot think of any specific barriers that would cause whole sungroups of people any barriers.
Now, there may be some like my mom faced. She was born in 1939, was adopted shortly after WWII and needed to track down her original birth certificate and the paperwork that legally changed her last name after the adoption was finalized.
We all have to admit, that is quite the barrier with several challenges along the way.
It took her about 6ish months to figure out who to contact, make contact, and eventually get the documents she needed in order to get the new RealID and get the new ID that is now good for 8 years. I didn’t help her at all, she did all of the research on her own when she was 85.
So tell the class, what are these so called barriers that could potentially cause these subgroups such a problem.
Surely you don’t think older americans are too stupid, or black americans too stupid to use a computer to do some research, or are too lazy to find a way to get to the BMV to get the new RealID…right???
So when Trump was in charge the dems cheated to elect Biden but when he was in charge dems cheated to elect Trump.
Was the election Trump won safe or did the dems set it up.
Wheres the logic?
Explain it to me like I’m a child cos I’m confused.
Libs need to redirect their efforts at opposing voter ID. Help those ersatz tens of millions get the ID instead. Then those unfortunate souls will be able to keep buying their ciggies and booze.
You have the DC establishment doing everything they can to keep Trump out of the WH vs the will of the American people. What’s cool is that now “we the people” have the Fulton County ballots to be able to inspect for fraud? Hopefully…there’ll be no fraud but if they do find it, it partially redeems the intelligence of 81 million people.
Libs have typically always embraced ways to make it easier to vote and to REGISTER to vote. Take, for instance, motor voter reforms. If you go to a DMV with ID and get a driver’s license, you are automatically registered to vote. Makes sense!
But the GOP absolutely hates this, and fights it in court all the time. Why? It makes it easier to vote. They also resist making voting day a national holiday, like most countries do. They also fight mail in ballots, despite several states using them exclusively without problems. Every time the Dems come up with a way to make voting easier, the GOP fights it.
Because it is in their best interest to lower turnout. The lower the turnout, the more likely it is they will win. So when the GOP complains about IDs, you look at it from the same perspective, what is in it for them? Rare voter fraud vs. millions disenfranchised, why would you do that? Because it still benefits them. Folks without ID are poorer, more likely black, more likely urban. And those folks don’t vote for the GOP as often.
