So libs, anybody can vote

It is not wild.
My grandmother was born at home, she did not drive, she was a minority, she lived on a ranch many hours from the courthouse, there was not the internet in her day and she did not have a phone until she was in her fifties and she had an ID.

Trump has publicly stated that he votes by mail so what now should his vote be null and void.
He has also said you can’t be carrying a gun anywhere there is ice agents around no matter the law.
What now is it the dems fault for his statements on the restrictions on the 2nd ammendment and his mail in voting.

You don’t need a Real ID to vote either, so what’s your point?

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It really isn’t. But that’s their new narrative for the uninformed

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You need some form of ID which has proof of citizenship.

Right now the only document that exists that fulfills that requirement perfectly is a passport (as I stated above, not even DHS thinks RealIDs fit the bill- although the proposed law allows for it)…and only 50% of Americans have one.

For a first timer, that would be $65 (for a passport card) or $165 (for a passport).

You guys really need to read the proposed law.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/22/text

Condescension is not an trait to be admired. Some of us don’t scour talking points all day to come here and pretend they are experts in their own minds.

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…and there it is…the whole purpose of ID is to limit ILLEGAL voting.

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Did I? Are there millions of voters incapable of getting a legal ID?

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How does one fraudulently in person vote without being caught? Can you walk me through it?

You’re up early and I do not have any idea of what you’re speaking of. Our whole conversation is regarding just that…the whole population. If you want to vote, get an ID proving you are who you say you are and it’s just that simple.

if the stupid couldn’t vote Trump would lose 75% of his base.

Allan

20 million Americans who are eligible to vote do not have IDs that would suit this purpose. Consider the disabled who do not drive. Consider the elderly who have no need for a Driver’s license. Folks in retirement homes. Poor people who do not drive because they live in cities.

All eligible voters, none with ID suitable under GOP demands.

It is easy to fix. Just issue IDs to every American free of charge, like social security cards but with a photo. Heck, make all social security cards picture IDs and you get a twofer.

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Ok…what is so difficult about getting an ID? If it’s important to the voter, then make the effort to prove you are who you say you are and ALL of us should be in favor of this…IF…we desire honest elections. That said, I agree that if there’s some sort of economic shortfall, an ID should be provided at no charge…if the individual makes the effort to get one.

ps…I’d even go so far as to have local governments initiate volunteers to take people without transportation, to these places to get a voter ID.

Why a passport? Those cost money. You should not have to pay to exercise your right to vote. If ID is needed, it should be provided free of charge. Just put a photo on your social security card and call it a day. Everyone gets one of those, and it can serve as Real ID for air travel as well.

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Washed up and alone since the 70’s. :wink:

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I say we make getting a Voter ID as simple as buying a gun from the store. :wink:

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A passport is a viable option but certainly not the only one. What you’re suggesting makes sense and I’d go along with that.

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One thing about a passport is that it is updated every 10 years, which makes me think your SS card could also stand an update that often. Obviously a SS card as a young adult wouldn’t work well to ID you when you’re in your sixties. But that is a small inconvenience when you can get so much utility out of it. You can time it to around the census as well, which will help matters there.

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If it’s to be used in an election, I’d suggest it being updated every four years.

I suppose, but Passports seem to get it right. A lot can change in 10 years, but less so in 4. And again, we are trying to make this reasonable for the average voter. We are talking a hundred million IDs, more or less. Recycling every 4 years seems a bit excessive.