Snowflake Ben Shapiro gets triggered by right-wing British journalist

[Roxiebelle]

@Nemesis

So now the United States has the corner on the correct version of conservatism?

YES! Now you’re getting it!

[Calvin_Reagan]

Big problem with that logic: Shapiro himself created that divide in his argument to a conservative Brit. Shapiro assumed that Neil was a liberal Brit, not a conservative Brit.

[Tommy-Englander]

@westaussie

The BBC is not the publicity arm of Ben Shapiro. He quite clearly had not done any research on the interviewer. He was unprepared and spat the dummy. It was akin to a 5 year old’s temper tantrum because he didn’t get his own way. A car wreck of an interview of gargantuan proportion.

He doesn’t seem to be able to back up his positions and then gets angry on being asked questions on his position.Neil isn’t even an aggressive interviewer compared to some on the BBC,like you say,he didn’t do his homework and made himself look pathetic.

[calirepub]

After watching the interview I have to disagree with the way TYT were framing what happened. This unknown hack of a British ‘journalist’ owes Ben Shapiro an apology for the way he conducted himself. Every single question he posed to Shapiro was a gotcha question. If the interviewer was trying to be fair he would have stuck to fawning questions about the book. If I was Shapiro I would have walked out of the interview the minute the bias started seeping through in the questions. Frankly, this looks bad on the entire UK. They should be ashamed to support this man by allowing him a country to live in.

[Bodecea]

@hindsight

I’m sorry, who exactly is Ben Shapiro?

Well, according to Ben Shapiro, he’s very well known.

[party-free]

I don’t think that the way the questions was framed “determined him to be a leftist and nothing more”-the problem was that Shapiro does what he does best-when he senses a point he can dwell on and hammer really hard, he just beats the poor horse to death, and that’s what happened here. I don’t have a problem saying that the interviewer was clearly posting the query in a provocative way-but then Ben acted in a way that would have gotten him a time out or silence here. He “attacked the poster and not the post.” Plays the victim. Big lib media is out to get you. Blah blah blah.

Now, if he were told that this was going to be a book tour interview and then they came at him like this-I would say that’s unfair, but Ben sorta chest thumps a lot, so he shouldn’t be surprised when things like this happen.

If Shapiro didn’t wallow so deeply in this petulant political culture himself, then it might be a little easier to feel like he was treated unfairly.

[Calvin_Reagan]

Conservative British Party

I looked up Conservative Party of Britian. Wiki labels them as a centre-right party.

Was Margaret Thatcher a conservative or a liberal? How about Winston Churchhill?

[LucyLou]

@Smyrna

That was an excellent interview where the person being interviewed, exposed how biased the interviewer was, who attempted to lie about his leftist bias, under the guise of posing as neutral.

I love observing sheople being fed their sheople food…expose themselves by regurgitating what’s being fed as baaaaa, baaaaa, baaaaad. Today…it’s Ben Shapiro…amirite?

Ok. Here you are being a scheople. Baa.

[westaussie]

Shapiro did seem to say that it was unfair to use Shapiro’s own comments in the questions.

How do you reckon Shapiro would have gone if he had been interviewed by Kay Burley?

[Bodecea]

@Smyrna

That was an excellent interview where the person being interviewed, exposed how biased the interviewer was, who attempted to lie about his leftist bias, under the guise of posing as neutral.

I love observing sheople being fed their sheople food…expose themselves by regurgitating what’s being fed as baaaaa, baaaaa, baaaaad. Today…it’s Ben Shapiro…amirite?

Looks like you fell for it too…

[Calvin_Reagan]

That’s correct. I reviewed the interview again, and Neil doesn’t provide a liberal framing. Neil himself told him that he was playing devil’s advocate and was asking to respond to the criticism.

[Bodecea]

@CaughtInTheMiddle

@Smyrna

@Calvin_Reagan

Dude, do research on Andrew Neil. He works for The Spectator, a conservative magazine.

You may attempt to label someone a conservative from some other country whose scope of what is a conservative, is obviously different than in the United States. The perfect example is a conservative from the US…Ben Shapiro…discussing abortion with this British “conservative” who is obviously way left of Ben. Anyone who is being honest about what they just observed can easily identify who was on the left and who held positions espoused by the right. Now the question becomes…are you honest?

You are now doing what Ben attempted to do (and don’t realize it).

At least Shapiro, after actually doing some research, apologized…don’t think we’ll see that here…we know who keeps digging…

[Calvin_Reagan]

No, it was not. He was trying to challenge him on his positions and respond to criticisms, as he mapped out in the interview. Shapiro’s argument was not “these are logic fallacies”, it was about creating diversions and trying to turn the table on the interviewer. He was not in the business of answering his questions.

[JayJay]

And yet again we have someone on these boards waltzing into a thread, doesn’t have the slightest idea what he’s talking about, and yet can’t wait to show off his ignorance.

This phenomenon is fascinating to me.

[Bodecea]

@janer

I am not a big fan of Shapiro’s, but when I first saw links to this interview, words like “tantrum”, “stormed off”, “triggered” to describe Shapiro were used. So I watched the entire interview.

My reaction - I think Shapiro is on an interview tour to promote a book that came out in the past few months. The way these interviews are generally, and professionally, conducted is to perhaps ask a few general questions for the benefit of the audience who might not know the interviewed subject, and then get into the content of the book. The BBC host didn’t seem interested in discussing the book (frankly, there are few hosts that seem to have actually read the book when interviewing an author) and instead brought up Shapiro’s past tweets, Georgia’s abortion legislation (about which he misstated information - not surprising since many media outlets did the same) and Shapiro’s decision to leave Breitbart.

Shapiro - understandably IMHO - became frustrated with what he believed was a book tour interview turning into an interview about past tweet, his conservative position on issues, and so on. If you have ever watched Shapiro speak to groups - usually college - where there are a high percentage of political opponents in the audience, you see that he handles their questions quite well because why he’s there is clear from the outset. In this case, Shapiro realized he’d been baited-and-switched, seemed frustrated and finally thanked the guy for his time and ended the interview.

In your long thread you basically confirmed the point that he expected a typical American RW softball interview…but that’s not how it’s done in the UK…and he failed…miserably.

[Tommy-Englander]

@westaussie

Shapiro did seem to say that it was unfair to use Shapiro’s own comments in the questions.

How do you reckon Shapiro would have gone if he had been interviewed by Kay Burley?

Not well at all

Its the way tv political journalism works here,interviewers usually take a contrarian position and people have to explain their views,From what I have seen your tv is similar in that regard.

[JayJay]

Anyone who is honest understands the people of the world are not bifurcated into one of two philosophical groups where if you don’t have purity of belief on every single issue you’re immediately on the opposite end of the spectrum.

[Roxiebelle]

Especially in Europe and the UK who are a bunch of global warming nut-jobs, that’s the mark of a liberal for sure!!

[JayJay]

So in sum, what you are saying is Ben Shapiro is not really an excellent debater but can only perform well when he’s meticulously prepared and is aware of everything that’s going to be thrown at him.

Thanks for your honesty.

[JayJay]

@Roxiebelle

Especially in Europe and the UK who are a bunch of global warming nut-jobs, that’s the mark of a liberal for sure!!

And player number two rushes in to do the same thing player number one does.

So many people that are absolutely sure they KNOW something.

Dunning Kruger on a massive scale…