Should the word "riot" be considered hate speech?

[LucyLou]

@DougBH

The media should just tell the truth in these stories. You can’t kill some criminal just because you catch him passing off counterfeit money…we all agree to that. However this has to become a story of the saint murdered by the demons, as in:

George Floyd was 'very loving' and a 'gentle giant,' friends and family say

However, then you go to a source in a foreign media that apparently isn’t so tied into the theme:

George Floyd left Texas prison to start new life in Minneapolis | Daily Mail Online

Notably:

He plead guilty to entering a woman’s home, pointing a gun at her stomach and searching the home for drugs and money, according to court records

Ok, that does not justify the cops in this instance in the least. But this is our second fake “gentle giant” by the media. Remember the Ferguson stories?

So do they not realize if they do this it is all going to come out?

Well done DougBH.

[LucyLou]

@DougBH

As I said, I only did a google search to see what his past was like after I read that NBC article about the loving gentle giant. Obviously, the journalist and NBC Editor and Yahoo editor that carried it forward did care about his past, and went to work falsifying it.
So don’t say nobody cared. NBC and Yahoo cared.
And didn’t mind pushing their fake news.

Well done, DougBH.

[LucyLou]

@conan

Good post. And good perspective from cops point of view.

@TriggerWarning

Having been a cop for nearly 25 years a record of complaints doesn’t mean a thing its own. So many people arrested complain about “excessive force” and “rudeness” as a means of retaliating for being arrested. Its almost never true which is why cops have embraced body cams as they exonerate the cops 99 times out of a 100.

A cop without complaints is a cop who is sitting in his car all day, making no stops, and dodging calls.

Point being that if the officer’s history of complaints is fair game so is Floyd’s history of violence.

Nice. Just cut off the rest of the post.

[Samm]

@Safiel

As an aside.

The pigs did an outstanding job of asphyxiating a black man.

Not so good a job in protecting private property from destruction by rioters.

How do you stop looters other than shooting them? Is that what you expected the cops to do to protect property?

[Samm]

@PurpnGold

@conan

If the victim was white…chance are we would never have heard about it.

Not a chance.

What about the white woman that was killed a few years ago? Wasn’t she in Minnesota too?

How many shops were looted and cars burned during the riots following that incident?

[conan]

Rest of his post I’ve already gone through in my head. I was just pointing out what I’ve haven’t thought about.

So spare me the eye roll.

[GWH]

The people of Minneapolis need to quit already with the rioting. What’s the end game? The 4 officers are fired, the FBI has been called on to investigate, they’re probably facing murder charges. And they should be charged. But the looting and rioting are hurting your cause. It’s only going to get people killed.

[Rodeo]

Burning down a Wendy’s and looting Target is a form of protest?

Exactly what did the folks who own the property being destroyed and who paid for the merchandise being stolen have to do with the completely wrong conduct of 3-4 police officers.

I fail to see how destroying the community, the restaurants and stores that provide goods, services, food, and jobs has anything to do with protest.

The people doing those deeds are criminals, and just as I hope the officers who killed George Floyd face justice, so to should the arsonists, vandals, and robbers, who’ve been assaulting that community.

[Rodeo]

That’s really well said Conan thank you.

I don’t know how to stop this, I just know the rioting, vandalism, theft, and other crimes we are witnessing are just destroying the community and a lot of people’s lives, people who had nothing to do with the apparently unjustified death of George Floyd.

Those people burning down those neighborhoods are criminals Taking advantage of a terrible situation …not protesters in my opinion.

[Optrader]

@markdido

@fallenturtle

No, because it isn’t denigrating a group of people based on their identity.

A riot is a form of protest.

So what are you “protesting” when you steal a flat screen TV from Target?

They’re protesting not having a flat screen TV.

[Samm]

C’mon … they already all have flat screen TVs. They just want larger flat screens with more dpi.

[Smyrna]

@altair1013

Why are we not allowed to call a riot by it’s name anymore?

…cuz it’s different.

[wiley8425]

That’s the problem. They’re probably facing charges when they should be facing charges. There’s no question what happened here. The lead officer was still kneeling on the guy’s neck for at least three full minutes after he stopped moving. Now the precint is burning and there is absolutely no police presence. That tells me they know they screwed up here and don’t want to incite things further.

Seems very similar to the Freddie Gray incident, imo. The cops involved there not only watched Gray die without calling for medical assistance, they were literally bragging about it to bystanders who were recording the incident as it was happening. These guys in Minneapolis knew they were being filmed too. People have had enough of this crap. It shouldn’t have happened the first time, let alone this time. This illustrates the wrong people are being hired in law enforcement. The lead officer had a history of complaints against him going back years prior to this and received no disciplinary action for any of them. That’s wrong.

[STODR]

You mean there could be good people on both sides? Who would have known.

[Optrader]

@Samm

C’mon … they already all have flat screen TVs. They just want larger flat screens with more dpi.

Yep. No better way to protest violence then with some good old fashioned burning, looting and pillaging!

[wiley8425]

It doesn’t. But how many angry people do you know act rationally when they’re angry?

[GWH]

@wiley8425

That tells me they know they screwed up here and don’t want to incite things further.

It tells me there are a bunch of people breaking the law. They should also be prosecuted.

All officers have complaints filed against them. The veracity of those complaints is always in question, it’s the shear nature of arresting criminals. That’s not to say that they shouldn’t be investigated by his superiors, but the mere existence of complaints is evidence of nothing.

The police took to the streets to stop the rioting with teargas and rubber bullets. They didn’t give up the prescient because they felt guilty. They gave it up because they were overwhelmed.

Yes, there was no convictions in the Grey incident. So when should they riot and burn down the prescient? Before justice is served or after? I get it. People are pissed off. They should be. But rioting and looting does their cause a great disservice. Do you think police will have a heavier hand after they finish burning down the city, or will they “all just get along” when this is over?

[GWH]

Thanks Vikings!

[Snow96]

@PurpnGold

Yes

And just let the non protestors (because they no longer are protesters) steal the city blind and burn it down. Really? Okay? Then NO federal funds into that area of anykind PERIOD.

@PurpnGold

You still aren’t listening

Your comparing apples to oranges. Protesters when they turn violent/looting compared to the guy that started this. One isn’t like the other.

[Snow96]

@TheDoctorIsIn

If the police escalate a riot into warfare in the streets , it will quickly be understood how outnumbered the cops are, when it really comes down to it.

It’s the protesters who are escalatiing things when they start looting stores empty and start burning the city to the ground.